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Date: 02 Feb 2009 08:35:58
From: Stapler
Subject: Whisper was right
Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam.





 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 08:58:06
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 2:35=A0am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com > wrote:
> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
> worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam.

Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not the undisputed
goat FFS


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 15:12:56
From:
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 6:12=A0pm, jasoncatlin1...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 6:00=A0pm, Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 2, 9:05=A0pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
>
> > > "Raja" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com=
...
> > > On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, N=
adal
> > > > worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another =
slam.
> > > >Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not the undisputed
> > > >goat FFS
>
> > > So?
> > > There is no =A0undisputed goat in women's tennis either.
>
> > > Look atGraf, doesn't have the overall slam record, doesn't hold most =
YEC
> > > titles, doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open era AO)=
.
> > > Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak. ...
>
> > "Dominated"?
> > As in "Seles as #1 lost 3 of 5 matches against Graf, one loss being a
> > 26 16 destruction"?
> > A so-called "Seles domination"?
>
> > Max- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Just curious. Were you watching an old Graf tape during last year's
> Fed-Rafa final? :)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Er Wimby final I mean.


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 15:42:36
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 3:51=A0pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr > wrote:
> zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 3:42 pm, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 2-Feb-2009, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>
> >>> YEC doesn't count. As an advocate of 7543 you ought to know that.
>
> >> What is the point of playing if "no one remembers" YEC?
>
> > You are missing the point. *striptease is try to pull wool over
> > everyone by tainting Graf. Since Graf is tainted and still considered
> > GOAT, Sampras should as well be. I say nice try.
>
> > Graf won 6 FO (her worst surface)
> > Sampras made one SF at FO once (his worst surface)
>
> As if the whole tennis and greatness issues are based soley on "surfaces"=
.

Yes. There are two fucking surfaces out there (grass and carpet pretty
much became extinct by the early 90). If you cant dominate these two
fucking surface what kind of a goat are you.

Clay and HC, Clay and HC, Clay and HC, Clay and HC, Clay and HC, Clay
and HC, Clay and HC, Clay and HC, Clay and HC,

Thats all...............just... twoooooooooooooooooooo fucking
surfaces. Sampras couldnt do it. Neither could Federer.

>
> Your own narrow-minded point of view, which you're entitled to, of course=
.



  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 15:12:01
From:
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 6:00=A0pm, Calimero <calimero...@gmx.de > wrote:
> On Feb 2, 9:05=A0pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Raja" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com..=
.
> > On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> > > Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nad=
al
> > > worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another sl=
am.
> > >Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not the undisputed
> > >goat FFS
>
> > So?
> > There is no =A0undisputed goat in women's tennis either.
>
> > Look atGraf, doesn't have the overall slam record, doesn't hold most YE=
C
> > titles, doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open era AO).
> > Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak. ...
>
> "Dominated"?
> As in "Seles as #1 lost 3 of 5 matches against Graf, one loss being a
> 26 16 destruction"?
> A so-called "Seles domination"?
>
> Max- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Just curious. Were you watching an old Graf tape during last year's
Fed-Rafa final? :)


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 15:00:37
From: Calimero
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 9:05=A0pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr > wrote:
> "Raja" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> > Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
> > worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam=
.
> >Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not the undisputed
> >goat FFS
>
> So?
> There is no =A0undisputed goat in women's tennis either.
>
> Look atGraf, doesn't have the overall slam record, doesn't hold most YEC
> titles, doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open era AO).
> Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak. ...


"Dominated"?
As in "Seles as #1 lost 3 of 5 matches against Graf, one loss being a
26 16 destruction"?
A so-called "Seles domination"?

Max


   
Date: 03 Feb 2009 00:12:25
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
Calimero wrote:
> On Feb 2, 9:05 pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
>> "Raja" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact,
>>> Nadal worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win
>>> another slam. Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not
>>> the undisputed goat FFS
>>
>> So?
>> There is no undisputed goat in women's tennis either.
>>
>> Look atGraf, doesn't have the overall slam record, doesn't hold most
>> YEC titles, doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open
>> era AO). Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak.
>> ...
>
>
> "Dominated"?
> As in "Seles as #1 lost 3 of 5 matches against Graf, one loss being a
> 26 16 destruction"?
> A so-called "Seles domination"?


Yes, obviosly when you have #1 in the world 2 years in a row who wins 7/9
slams in that period, I'd call that dominance.




  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 13:46:22
From:
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 3:42=A0pm, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On =A02-Feb-2009, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>
> > YEC doesn't count. As an advocate of 7543 you ought to know that.
>
> What is the point of playing if "no one remembers" YEC?

You are missing the point. *striptease is try to pull wool over
everyone by tainting Graf. Since Graf is tainted and still considered
GOAT, Sampras should as well be. I say nice try.

Graf won 6 FO (her worst surface)
Sampras made one SF at FO once (his worst surface)



   
Date: 02 Feb 2009 22:51:52
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
zepfloyes@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 3:42 pm, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2-Feb-2009, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
>>
>>> YEC doesn't count. As an advocate of 7543 you ought to know that.
>>
>> What is the point of playing if "no one remembers" YEC?
>
> You are missing the point. *striptease is try to pull wool over
> everyone by tainting Graf. Since Graf is tainted and still considered
> GOAT, Sampras should as well be. I say nice try.
>
> Graf won 6 FO (her worst surface)
> Sampras made one SF at FO once (his worst surface)



As if the whole tennis and greatness issues are based soley on "surfaces".

Your own narrow-minded point of view, which you're entitled to, of course.




  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 13:03:07
From:
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 2:46=A0pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr > wrote:
> Raja wrote:
> > On Feb 2, 2:05 pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
> >> "Raja" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com.=
..
> >> On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact,
> >>> Nadal worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win
> >>> another slam. Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not
> >>> the undisputed goat FFS
>
> >> So?
> >> There is no undisputed goat in women's tennis either.
>
> >> Look at Graf, doesn't have the overall slam record
>
> > No one really thinks highly of Margaret Smiths 24 slams. 11 of them
> > were Australian. No one went there in the 60s
>
> > <, doesn't hold most YEC
> >> titles
>
> > She has 5 to Navratilova's 8. Navratilova played for a long long
> > time. =A0Graf didnt.
>
> >> , doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open era AO).
>
> > Those are bullshit records. Laver doesnt have the most at any slam
> > either. The idea is to win all of them multiple times. Not one of them
> > 7 times and be one dimensional lik Sampras
>
> >> Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak.
>
> > She was in a slump. And she wasnt dominated by Seles. Seles won ONLY 5
> > matches against her in her entire career. What kind of domination is
> > that?
>
> >> I won't even
> >> start about the stabbing.
>
> >> Nobody claimed Sampras was undisputed.
> >> Just that, so far, he has the best record of all of those guys
> >> there, and that makes him goat.
>
> > No he has the most slams, he trails in every other record out there.
> > And he was piss poor on clay. If nor for Wimbledon he would have 7
> > slams only.
>
> You're rationalizing and giving excuses.
> Navratilova won more YEC cause she played longer than Steffi, Seles
> dominated 91-92 because Graf was in s slump, single slam records don't
> matter, etc.

Its not excuse. Its about who dominates the most surfaces. Graf
dominated all. Seles didnt dominate grass. Navratilova didnt dominate
clay. Evert didnt dominate grass. Serena didnt dominate - clay.

Everyone had some weaknesses. Graf didnt. She won all the 4 slams, 5
times.

And plus Navratilova YEC record is inflated. Evert did not play in
many of those when she was better than Navratilova in the 70s.

>
> I may as well then say Sampras had anemia and didn't have enough stamina =
to
> play on clay otherwise he would have won.
>
> We're back at start, only tangible achievements matter and Sampras/Laver =
and
> Stefii have the best records. that makes them GOAT.- Hide quoted text -
>

No Sampras sucked on clay. Laver and Steffi didnt.

> - Show quoted text -



  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 12:27:37
From: Raja
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 2:05=A0pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr > wrote:
> "Raja" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>
> > Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
> > worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam=
.
> >Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not the undisputed
> >goat FFS
>
> So?
> There is no =A0undisputed goat in women's tennis either.
>
> Look at Graf, doesn't have the overall slam record

No one really thinks highly of Margaret Smiths 24 slams. 11 of them
were Australian. No one went there in the 60s

<, doesn't hold most YEC
> titles

She has 5 to Navratilova's 8. Navratilova played for a long long
time. Graf didnt.

>, doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open era AO).

Those are bullshit records. Laver doesnt have the most at any slam
either. The idea is to win all of them multiple times. Not one of them
7 times and be one dimensional lik Sampras

> Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak.

She was in a slump. And she wasnt dominated by Seles. Seles won ONLY 5
matches against her in her entire career. What kind of domination is
that?

> I won't even
> start about the stabbing.
>
> Nobody claimed Sampras was undisputed.
> Just that, so far, he has the best record of all of those guys there, and
> that makes him goat.

No he has the most slams, he trails in every other record out there.
And he was piss poor on clay. If nor for Wimbledon he would have 7
slams only.

>
> Pretty simple actually



   
Date: 02 Feb 2009 21:46:36
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
Raja wrote:
> On Feb 2, 2:05 pm, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr> wrote:
>> "Raja" <zepflo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact,
>>> Nadal worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win
>>> another slam. Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not
>>> the undisputed goat FFS
>>
>> So?
>> There is no undisputed goat in women's tennis either.
>>
>> Look at Graf, doesn't have the overall slam record
>
> No one really thinks highly of Margaret Smiths 24 slams. 11 of them
> were Australian. No one went there in the 60s
>
> <, doesn't hold most YEC
>> titles
>
> She has 5 to Navratilova's 8. Navratilova played for a long long
> time. Graf didnt.
>
>> , doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open era AO).
>
> Those are bullshit records. Laver doesnt have the most at any slam
> either. The idea is to win all of them multiple times. Not one of them
> 7 times and be one dimensional lik Sampras
>
>> Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak.
>
> She was in a slump. And she wasnt dominated by Seles. Seles won ONLY 5
> matches against her in her entire career. What kind of domination is
> that?
>
>> I won't even
>> start about the stabbing.
>>
>> Nobody claimed Sampras was undisputed.
>> Just that, so far, he has the best record of all of those guys
>> there, and that makes him goat.
>
> No he has the most slams, he trails in every other record out there.
> And he was piss poor on clay. If nor for Wimbledon he would have 7
> slams only.


You're rationalizing and giving excuses.
Navratilova won more YEC cause she played longer than Steffi, Seles
dominated 91-92 because Graf was in s slump, single slam records don't
matter, etc.

I may as well then say Sampras had anemia and didn't have enough stamina to
play on clay otherwise he would have won.


We're back at start, only tangible achievements matter and Sampras/Laver and
Stefii have the best records. that makes them GOAT.




    
Date: 03 Feb 2009 08:38:21
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
*skriptis wrote:
>
> You're rationalizing and giving excuses.
> Navratilova won more YEC cause she played longer than Steffi,

YEC doesn't count. As an advocate of 7543 you ought to know that.

> Seles
> dominated 91-92 because Graf was in s slump, single slam records don't
> matter, etc.

Er, Wimbledon 6-2 6-1 was in '92.





     
Date: 02 Feb 2009 22:47:20
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Whisper was right

"DavidW" <no@email.provided > wrote in message
news:SJJhl.7848$UX6.1302@newsfe14.iad...
> *skriptis wrote:
>>
>> You're rationalizing and giving excuses.
>> Navratilova won more YEC cause she played longer than Steffi,
>
> YEC doesn't count. As an advocate of 7543 you ought to know that.
>
>> Seles
>> dominated 91-92 because Graf was in s slump, single slam records don't
>> matter, etc.
>
> Er, Wimbledon 6-2 6-1 was in '92.
>
>
>

???




      
Date: 03 Feb 2009 09:00:35
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
*skriptis wrote:
> "DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote in message
> news:SJJhl.7848$UX6.1302@newsfe14.iad...
>> *skriptis wrote:
>>>
>>> You're rationalizing and giving excuses.
>>> Navratilova won more YEC cause she played longer than Steffi,
>>
>> YEC doesn't count. As an advocate of 7543 you ought to know that.
>>
>>> Seles
>>> dominated 91-92 because Graf was in s slump, single slam records
>>> don't matter, etc.
>>
>> Er, Wimbledon 6-2 6-1 was in '92.
>>
>
> ???

Incomprehensible was it?




       
Date: 02 Feb 2009 23:06:25
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
DavidW wrote:
> *skriptis wrote:
>> "DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote in message
>> news:SJJhl.7848$UX6.1302@newsfe14.iad...
>>> *skriptis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You're rationalizing and giving excuses.
>>>> Navratilova won more YEC cause she played longer than Steffi,
>>>
>>> YEC doesn't count. As an advocate of 7543 you ought to know that.
>>>
>>>> Seles
>>>> dominated 91-92 because Graf was in s slump, single slam records
>>>> don't matter, etc.
>>>
>>> Er, Wimbledon 6-2 6-1 was in '92.
>>>
>>
>> ???
>
> Incomprehensible was it?

Completely.




     
Date: 02 Feb 2009 21:42:34
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: Whisper was right

On 2-Feb-2009, "DavidW" <no@email.provided > wrote:

> YEC doesn't count. As an advocate of 7543 you ought to know that.

What is the point of playing if "no one remembers" YEC?


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 21:05:47
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Whisper was right

"Raja" <zepfloyes@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com > wrote:
> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
> worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam.

>Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not the undisputed
>goat FFS

So?
There is no undisputed goat in women's tennis either.

Look at Graf, doesn't have the overall slam record, doesn't hold most YEC
titles, doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open era AO).
Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak. I won't even
start about the stabbing.


Nobody claimed Sampras was undisputed.
Just that, so far, he has the best record of all of those guys there, and
that makes him goat.

Pretty simple actually




   
Date: 03 Feb 2009 08:44:45
From: DavidW
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
*skriptis wrote:
> "Raja" <zepfloyes@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e76f7ba6-2f32-44bb-b1af-ad44b64638a2@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 2, 2:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact,
>> Nadal worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win
>> another slam.
>
>> Sampras has the 14 slam record for now. But he is not the undisputed
>> goat FFS
>
> So?
> There is no undisputed goat in women's tennis either.
>
> Look at Graf, doesn't have the overall slam record,

Second to Court by 2 slams. Court played only two surfaces and won 11 AOs when
no one else turned up.

> doesn't hold most YEC titles,

Irrelevant.

> doesn't have a single slam record (only tied for open era
> AO).

Won the biggest slam 7 times and each of the others a minimum of four times.
'Nuff said.

> Was dominated by her main rival in the middle of her peak.

Rubbish.

> I won't even start about the stabbing.

Nor should you. GOAT is based on actual achievements. Woulda coulda doesn't
count.




 
Date: 02 Feb 2009 05:44:06
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Feb 2, 8:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com > wrote:
> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
> worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam.

I would say that Laver is GOAT. But yes, Sampras is still greater than
Fed and it seems that Fed may well never break any of Sampras' biggest
records.

- 6 years as #1; already impossible.
- 7 Wimbledons, very unlikely.
- 14 slams, still possible but increasingly unlikely, he has to hope
Nadal is taken out for him.


  
Date: 02 Feb 2009 21:32:25
From: zcarenow@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
Rod Laver is GOAT!



  
Date: 03 Feb 2009 05:23:18
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Whisper was right
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 05:44:06 -0800 (PST), GOAT
<thetruetennisgoat@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:

>On Feb 2, 8:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
>> worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam.
>
>I would say that Laver is GOAT. But yes, Sampras is still greater than
>Fed and it seems that Fed may well never break any of Sampras' biggest
>records.
>
>- 6 years as #1; already impossible.
>- 7 Wimbledons, very unlikely.
>- 14 slams, still possible but increasingly unlikely, he has to hope
>Nadal is taken out for him.


The guy who LOST 39 slams and LOST EIGHT times in R1/R2 at the FO
never making a final is goat ?

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Keep trying Sampras fucker.


   
Date: 03 Feb 2009 06:32:54
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Whisper was right

"Superdave" <the.big.rst.kahuna@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:24lfo4pl8hhm8bbsni9g7aqk6rs1sniluj@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 05:44:06 -0800 (PST), GOAT
> <thetruetennisgoat@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Feb 2, 8:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>>> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
>>> worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam.
>>
>>I would say that Laver is GOAT. But yes, Sampras is still greater than
>>Fed and it seems that Fed may well never break any of Sampras' biggest
>>records.
>>
>>- 6 years as #1; already impossible.
>>- 7 Wimbledons, very unlikely.
>>- 14 slams, still possible but increasingly unlikely, he has to hope
>>Nadal is taken out for him.
>
>
> The guy who LOST 39 slams and LOST EIGHT times in R1/R2 at the FO
> never making a final is goat ?
>
> ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
>
> Keep trying Sampras fucker.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0_DHZIfRcs




  
Date: 03 Feb 2009 01:28:05
From: john
Subject: Re: Whisper was right

"GOAT" <thetruetennisgoat@hotmail.co.uk > wrote in message
news:b127901c-e913-4d2e-8d94-fb4794f6ff57@i18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 2, 8:35 am, "Stapler" <d...@d.com> wrote:
>> Sampras is the GOAT(for now) and Federer is a pretender. In fact, Nadal
>> worries Sampras more now since he knows Fed will never win another slam.
>
> I would say that Laver is GOAT. But yes, Sampras is still greater than
> Fed and it seems that Fed may well never break any of Sampras' biggest
> records.
>
> - 6 years as #1; already impossible.
> - 7 Wimbledons, very unlikely.
> - 14 slams, still possible but increasingly unlikely, he has to hope
> Nadal is taken out for him.

Federer's odd of breaking the 14 slam is pretty good despite his latest loss
to Nadal.
Federer is playing a type of game that is not too taxing on his body. He is
very
consistant performer on any grand slam events even in one of his most
difficult year
in 2008. Main problem for Federer in the next few years will be loss of
motivation
but that is very unlikely to happen until he get to 14 at very least. Now
Nadal, he is
definitely at his peak right now, but I don't think Sampras will worry too
much about
Nadal breaking his record. At 22 Nadal's window of winning slams probably
will be
only the next two or three years, his game is too taxing on his whole body
and player
like him will only need to be 2% slower than he is at his peak to see his
game suffer
serious drop in form. As he gets older nadal will need to reduce the stress
that his
game is putting on his body to prolong his career. I think at Nadal can
win 11 grand
slams but I seriously doubt he will overtake Federer or Samrpas on the slam
count.