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Date: 09 Feb 2009 04:05:56
From: Quincy
Subject: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
Discuss!




 
Date: 11 Feb 2009 13:04:58
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 7:05=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> Discuss!

I think this thread shows the difference between those that come here
to attack Federer all the time specially those that call themselves
fans of Sampras and those that like Federer's game.
How many of Federer's fans posted here that Federer is better than
Sampras in the middle of all the posts saying Sampras s better?!




 
Date: 11 Feb 2009 11:08:43
From: UC
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 7:05 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> Discuss!

Sampras, by a significant margin.


 
Date: 11 Feb 2009 04:12:57
From:
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 10, 5:16=A0pm, tennis41...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 9, 6:05=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > Discuss!
>
> Sampras is BETTER, without a doubt, a pure tier 1 attacking player.
>
> Fed got benefitted immensely from slowing down of courts since
> beginning of this decade without which he wouldn't be sitting on 13
> slams as he's now. Feddy had a piss-poor record against tier-2
> attacking players like Henman and Rafter. He couldn't get anything
> done till he was 22 or 23. He would have fared a lot worse in the 90s.
> You don't have to stretch your imagination too much to figure out how
> he would have done against Becker, Edberg, Stitch, Lendl and peak
> Agassi.

All of them, or any of them?



 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 09:16:27
From:
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 6:05=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> Discuss!

Sampras is BETTER, without a doubt, a pure tier 1 attacking player.

Fed got benefitted immensely from slowing down of courts since
beginning of this decade without which he wouldn't be sitting on 13
slams as he's now. Feddy had a piss-poor record against tier-2
attacking players like Henman and Rafter. He couldn't get anything
done till he was 22 or 23. He would have fared a lot worse in the 90s.
You don't have to stretch your imagination too much to figure out how
he would have done against Becker, Edberg, Stitch, Lendl and peak
Agassi.


  
Date: 11 Feb 2009 21:28:20
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
tennis41ife@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 9, 6:05 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>> Discuss!
>
> Sampras is BETTER, without a doubt, a pure tier 1 attacking player.
>
> Fed got benefitted immensely from slowing down of courts since
> beginning of this decade without which he wouldn't be sitting on 13
> slams as he's now. Feddy had a piss-poor record against tier-2
> attacking players like Henman and Rafter. He couldn't get anything
> done till he was 22 or 23. He would have fared a lot worse in the 90s.
> You don't have to stretch your imagination too much to figure out how
> he would have done against Becker, Edberg, Stitch, Lendl and peak
> Agassi.


Correct analysis.



 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 08:03:47
From: The Truth
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On 10 Feb., 13:48, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:
> Sampras.
>
> Federer is too *owned* by one particular player. I don't remember
> anyone ever owning Sampras when at his peak, correct me if I'm wrong.

Jaime Yzaga and Paul Haarhuis owned Pete Sampras. I am not sure if
this is better than being owned by Rafael Nadal.


  
Date: 11 Feb 2009 21:24:20
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
The Truth wrote:
> On 10 Feb., 13:48, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:
>> Sampras.
>>
>> Federer is too *owned* by one particular player. I don't remember
>> anyone ever owning Sampras when at his peak, correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Jaime Yzaga and Paul Haarhuis owned Pete Sampras. I am not sure if
> this is better than being owned by Rafael Nadal.


The truth is no one came close to owning Sampras. He was top dog from
day 1 til retirement.


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 07:09:19
From: shehzadsalim@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 10, 12:48=A0pm, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:
> Sampras.
>
> Federer is too *owned* by one particular player. I don't remember
> anyone ever owning Sampras when at his peak, correct me if I'm wrong.

Totally agreed


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 06:07:13
From:
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 10, 8:06=A0am, GOAT <thetruetennisg...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> On Feb 10, 12:48 pm, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Sampras.
>
> > Federer is too *owned* by one particular player. I don't remember
> > anyone ever owning Sampras when at his peak, correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> You are correct. Disgraceful that some people should think Fed is the
> GOAT when Nadal is kicking his ass on all surfaces, in all venues.
> Sampras was never owned by anyone.

Agree again.


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 06:06:53
From:
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 10, 7:48=A0am, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:
> Sampras.
>
> Federer is too *owned* by one particular player. I don't remember
> anyone ever owning Sampras when at his peak, correct me if I'm wrong.

Ditto.


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 06:06:37
From:
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 10, 7:37=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 7:05 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
> >> Discuss!
>
> > Sampras. No doubt. He was much better than bumrooter Fed. The GOAT
> > should be a S&V genious like Pete. Period.
>
> Fed cannot be goat - he lost 5 slam finals to Rafa on every surface.

True.


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 06:05:52
From:
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 10, 12:47=A0am, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr > wrote:
> Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
> > On Feb 9, 7:05 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
> >> Discuss!
>
> > Sampras. No doubt. He was much better than bumrooter Fed. The GOAT
> > should be a S&V genious like Pete. Period.
>
> yes it sucked big time when borg was post-1970 goat, good thing a s/v typ=
e
> outnumbered him.
>
> pre 1970 goat will always be laver, that's good too.

Agree.


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 05:06:25
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 10, 12:48 pm, blueskates1...@aol.com wrote:
> Sampras.
>
> Federer is too *owned* by one particular player. I don't remember
> anyone ever owning Sampras when at his peak, correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct. Disgraceful that some people should think Fed is the
GOAT when Nadal is kicking his ass on all surfaces, in all venues.
Sampras was never owned by anyone.


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 04:48:01
From:
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
Sampras.

Federer is too *owned* by one particular player. I don't remember
anyone ever owning Sampras when at his peak, correct me if I'm wrong.


  
Date: 10 Feb 2009 14:14:21
From: Superdave
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 04:48:01 -0800 (PST), blueskates1111@aol.com
wrote:

>Sampras.
>
>Federer is too *owned* by one particular player. I don't remember
>anyone ever owning Sampras when at his peak, correct me if I'm wrong.

he was never "good enough" to be owned !

he lost in R1/R2 to clowns so he could avoid it !


 
Date: 10 Feb 2009 00:22:26
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 1:05=A0pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:

Federer and going...



 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 18:34:55
From: Superroger
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 10, 2:19=A0am, Aranci...@selin.com wrote:
> On Feb 9, 7:05=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > Discuss!
>
> Sampras. No doubt. He was much better than bumrooter Fed. The GOAT
> should be a S&V genious like Pete. Period.

Bullshit!


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 18:34:28
From: Superroger
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 4:55=A0pm, The Truth <ob...@web.de > wrote:
> On 9 Feb., 16:40, guyana <guyanper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 9, 10:33 am, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>
> > > On 9 Feb., 13:05, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > > Discuss!
>
> > > Difficult question. Roger did beat Sampras in Wimbledon. This give hi=
m
> > > a great bonus.
>
> > Pete would never lose to Rafa on HC or on grass?
>
> Pete lost to Bastl and Corretja on grass and twice to Yzaga on fast
> HC. During his peak!
> No more questions!

Very true! That's why Pete is no Superpete.


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 18:27:51
From: undecided
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 3:34=A0pm, Professor X <sueboka...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 12:05=A0pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > Discuss!
>
> oh dear, please don't open this can of worms again.

Remember prior to 2003? it was Sampras vs Agassi threads......


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 17:19:16
From:
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 7:05=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> Discuss!

Sampras. No doubt. He was much better than bumrooter Fed. The GOAT
should be a S&V genious like Pete. Period.


  
Date: 10 Feb 2009 23:37:05
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
Arancione@selin.com wrote:
> On Feb 9, 7:05 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>> Discuss!
>
> Sampras. No doubt. He was much better than bumrooter Fed. The GOAT
> should be a S&V genious like Pete. Period.


Fed cannot be goat - he lost 5 slam finals to Rafa on every surface.



  
Date: 10 Feb 2009 06:47:55
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
Arancione@selin.com wrote:
> On Feb 9, 7:05 am, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>> Discuss!
>
> Sampras. No doubt. He was much better than bumrooter Fed. The GOAT
> should be a S&V genious like Pete. Period.

yes it sucked big time when borg was post-1970 goat, good thing a s/v type
outnumbered him.


pre 1970 goat will always be laver, that's good too.




 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 12:34:05
From: Professor X
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 12:05=A0pm, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> Discuss!

oh dear, please don't open this can of worms again.


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 11:11:14
From: undecided
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 7:05=A0am, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> Discuss!

Both great players although I prefer Sampras. Sue me.


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 17:51:31
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
"Quincy" <abydr@email.de > wrote in message
news:cecd7927-9354-4e50-85f2-506cf175cc13@v15g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> Discuss!

Sampras, end of debate.




 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 07:55:04
From: The Truth
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On 9 Feb., 16:40, guyana <guyanper...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Feb 9, 10:33 am, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>
> > On 9 Feb., 13:05, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > > Discuss!
>
> > Difficult question. Roger did beat Sampras in Wimbledon. This give him
> > a great bonus.
>
> Pete would never lose to Rafa on HC or on grass?

Pete lost to Bastl and Corretja on grass and twice to Yzaga on fast
HC. During his peak!
No more questions!


  
Date: 10 Feb 2009 22:54:57
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
The Truth wrote:
> On 9 Feb., 16:40, guyana <guyanper...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 9, 10:33 am, The Truth <ob...@web.de> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9 Feb., 13:05, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>>>> Discuss!
>>> Difficult question. Roger did beat Sampras in Wimbledon. This give him
>>> a great bonus.
>> Pete would never lose to Rafa on HC or on grass?
>
> Pete lost to Bastl and Corretja on grass and twice to Yzaga on fast
> HC. During his peak!
> No more questions!


Federer got smashed 63 62 on HC's by Mardy Fish when he was ranked No.1.

Says it all.



 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 07:40:38
From: guyana
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On Feb 9, 10:33=A0am, The Truth <ob...@web.de > wrote:
> On 9 Feb., 13:05, Quincy <ab...@email.de> wrote:
>
> > Discuss!
>
> Difficult question. Roger did beat Sampras in Wimbledon. This give him
> a great bonus.

Pete would never lose to Rafa on HC or on grass?


 
Date: 09 Feb 2009 07:33:38
From: The Truth
Subject: Re: Who is the better player? Pete Sampras or Roger Federer?
On 9 Feb., 13:05, Quincy <ab...@email.de > wrote:
> Discuss!

Difficult question. Roger did beat Sampras in Wimbledon. This give him
a great bonus.