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Date: 16 Jan 2009 14:22:19
From: wkhedr
Subject: Wilander predicts
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/60590b2c-e40a-11dd-8274-0000779fd2ac.html

He also talks about the court:

"Those baking courts won=92t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
=93Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It=92s a surface for the
likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier and
hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it=92s fast
because it=92s so hot.=94





 
Date: 17 Jan 2009 22:04:10
From: Fan
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
On Jan 16, 11:22=A0pm, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/60590b2c-e40a-11dd-8274-0000779fd2ac.html
>
> He also talks about the court:
>
> "Those baking courts won=92t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
> Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
> =93Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It=92s a surface for the
> likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier and
> hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it=92s fast
> because it=92s so hot.=94

Why does Wilander abuse himself?


 
Date: 17 Jan 2009 06:29:12
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
On 17 Jan., 04:22, wkhedr <wkh...@my-deja.com > wrote:
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/60590b2c-e40a-11dd-8274-0000779fd2ac.html
>
> He also talks about the court:
>
> "Those baking courts won=92t suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
> Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
> =93Melbourne is not their favourite surface. It=92s a surface for the
> likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier and
> hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and it=92s fast
> because it=92s so hot.=94

I don't think surface matters that much. Maybe for Nadal.


 
Date: 16 Jan 2009 16:26:43
From: Lax
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
What what?

I do agree that Rebound Ace suited Fed, Nadal better than this
Plexicushion stuff (because ace was a bit faster and it took slice
really well and topspin reasonably well). Nadal likes high bouncing
courts that take topspin well AND that are not too slow (so the ball
kicks violently INTO opponent backhand).

Anyways, I still think Fed, Nadal can pwn on this court.


  
Date: 17 Jan 2009 06:34:08
From:
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
On Jan 17, 12:49=A0pm, wen...@cix.compulink.co.uk wrote:
> In article
> <8a7ad98b-91fb-4cee-9e08-e6becf464...@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Lax.Cla...@gmail.com (Lax) wrote:
>
> > What what?
>
> > I do agree that Rebound Ace suited Fed, Nadal better than this
> > Plexicushion stuff (because ace was a bit faster and it took slice
> > really well and topspin reasonably well). =A0 Nadal likes high
>
> Considering that Nadal had his *only* good result at the AO last year on
> Plexicushion, it's hard for me to agree that Rebound Ace suited him
> better. Also, it was my impression that RA was slower, not faster. It
> doesn't seem to have bothered Federer either way - he lost in last year's
> sf, true, but a) he was sick and b) he lost to Safin at the same stage in
> 2005 - and won the event on RA in between. He's made the sf the last five
> years running, so I don't think the heat bothers him that much - not afte=
r
> training in Dubai, anyway.
>

I thought that the new court was supposed to be faster than Rebound
Ace, more akin to the USO courts.



  
Date: 17 Jan 2009 06:49:25
From:
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
In article
<8a7ad98b-91fb-4cee-9e08-e6becf464f55@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com >,
Lax.Clarke@gmail.com (Lax) wrote:

>
> What what?
>
> I do agree that Rebound Ace suited Fed, Nadal better than this
> Plexicushion stuff (because ace was a bit faster and it took slice
> really well and topspin reasonably well). Nadal likes high

Considering that Nadal had his *only* good result at the AO last year on
Plexicushion, it's hard for me to agree that Rebound Ace suited him
better. Also, it was my impression that RA was slower, not faster. It
doesn't seem to have bothered Federer either way - he lost in last year's
sf, true, but a) he was sick and b) he lost to Safin at the same stage in
2005 - and won the event on RA in between. He's made the sf the last five
years running, so I don't think the heat bothers him that much - not after
training in Dubai, anyway.

Agassi once said that on RA the ball bounced up and hung in a sort of
little pocket that suited him very well (I suspect that people without his
eyesight don't see this).

> bouncing
> courts that take topspin well AND that are not too slow (so the ball
> kicks violently INTO opponent backhand).
>
> Anyways, I still think Fed, Nadal can pwn on this court.

Yeah, I can't see the logic of Wilander's argument. Which is surprising
because he's really a very good commentator on-air.

wg


   
Date: 17 Jan 2009 13:16:03
From: Iceberg
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
<wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk > wrote in message
news:0K-dnQVSt8xITuzUnZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> In article
> <8a7ad98b-91fb-4cee-9e08-e6becf464f55@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
> Lax.Clarke@gmail.com (Lax) wrote:
>
>>
>> What what?
>>
>> I do agree that Rebound Ace suited Fed, Nadal better than this
>> Plexicushion stuff (because ace was a bit faster and it took slice
>> really well and topspin reasonably well). Nadal likes high
>
> Considering that Nadal had his *only* good result at the AO last year on
> Plexicushion, it's hard for me to agree that Rebound Ace suited him
> better. Also, it was my impression that RA was slower, not faster. It
> doesn't seem to have bothered Federer either way - he lost in last year's
> sf, true, but a) he was sick and b) he lost to Safin at the same stage in
> 2005 - and won the event on RA in between. He's made the sf the last five
> years running, so I don't think the heat bothers him that much - not after
> training in Dubai, anyway.
>
> Agassi once said that on RA the ball bounced up and hung in a sort of
> little pocket that suited him very well (I suspect that people without his
> eyesight don't see this).
>
>> bouncing
>> courts that take topspin well AND that are not too slow (so the ball
>> kicks violently INTO opponent backhand).
>>
>> Anyways, I still think Fed, Nadal can pwn on this court.
>
> Yeah, I can't see the logic of Wilander's argument. Which is surprising
> because he's really a very good commentator on-air.

problem is he's a big Fedfan.




    
Date: 17 Jan 2009 18:55:58
From:
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
In article <nSkcl.21469$Sp5.16569@text.news.virginmedia.com >,
big_bad_iceberg@moc.oohay (Iceberg) wrote:

>
> <wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:0K-dnQVSt8xITuzUnZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >
> > Yeah, I can't see the logic of Wilander's argument. Which is
> > surprising
> > because he's really a very good commentator on-air.
>
> problem is he's a big Fedfan.
>
>

And he shows it by saying the AO courts don't suit Fed? Strange kind of
fan.

wg


    
Date: 17 Jan 2009 14:26:45
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:16:03 GMT, "Iceberg"
<big_bad_iceberg@moc.oohay > wrote:

><wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:0K-dnQVSt8xITuzUnZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> In article
>> <8a7ad98b-91fb-4cee-9e08-e6becf464f55@o40g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>> Lax.Clarke@gmail.com (Lax) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What what?
>>>
>>> I do agree that Rebound Ace suited Fed, Nadal better than this
>>> Plexicushion stuff (because ace was a bit faster and it took slice
>>> really well and topspin reasonably well). Nadal likes high
>>
>> Considering that Nadal had his *only* good result at the AO last year on
>> Plexicushion, it's hard for me to agree that Rebound Ace suited him
>> better. Also, it was my impression that RA was slower, not faster. It
>> doesn't seem to have bothered Federer either way - he lost in last year's
>> sf, true, but a) he was sick and b) he lost to Safin at the same stage in
>> 2005 - and won the event on RA in between. He's made the sf the last five
>> years running, so I don't think the heat bothers him that much - not after
>> training in Dubai, anyway.
>>
>> Agassi once said that on RA the ball bounced up and hung in a sort of
>> little pocket that suited him very well (I suspect that people without his
>> eyesight don't see this).
>>
>>> bouncing
>>> courts that take topspin well AND that are not too slow (so the ball
>>> kicks violently INTO opponent backhand).
>>>
>>> Anyways, I still think Fed, Nadal can pwn on this court.
>>
>> Yeah, I can't see the logic of Wilander's argument. Which is surprising
>> because he's really a very good commentator on-air.
>
>problem is he's a big Fedfan.
>

all the "experts" are.


 
Date: 16 Jan 2009 22:33:53
From: Dr. GroundAxe
Subject: Re: Wilander predicts
Djokovic is in terrible form and will be lucky to make the QF. Tsonga may
not be able to take part.


"wkhedr" <wkhedr@my-deja.com > wrote in message
news:8acf3675-8fd8-484a-959b-c601121c2ae4@w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/60590b2c-e40a-11dd-8274-0000779fd2ac.html

He also talks about the court:

"Those baking courts wonít suit Federer or Nadal. In Paris and
Wimbledon, explains Wilander, their superior spin wins titles.
ďMelbourne is not their favourite surface. Itís a surface for the
likes of Djokovic, [Jo-Wilfried] Tsonga, who take the ball earlier and
hit with no spin. This surface in Australia is dead, and itís fast
because itís so hot.Ē