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Date: 30 Jan 2009 08:10:50
From: stephenj
Subject: should be another classic final
can't wait!



--
"I admit that there are good white men,
but they bear no proportion to the bad.
The bad must be strongest, for they rule.
They enslave those not of their color.
There is no faith to be placed in their words."

- Chief Pachgantschilias




 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 12:29:36
From: Shakes
Subject: Re: should be another classic final
On Jan 30, 6:10 am, stephenj <s...@cox.com > wrote:
> can't wait!
>
> --
> "I admit that there are good white men,
> but they bear no proportion to the bad.
> The bad must be strongest, for they rule.
> They enslave those not of their color.
> There is no faith to be placed in their words."
>
> - Chief Pachgantschilias

How I envy you as you are not a fan of either, :-). As a fed fan I am
very much nervous. Nadal is just a bad match-up for fed, no two ways
about it. I just hope fed serves as well as he did against Roddick. If
he can do that, he has a decent chance.


  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 11:33:25
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: should be another classic final
On Jan 31, 1:01=A0pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 31, 10:27 am, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 30, 2:29 pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 30, 6:10 am, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
>
> > > > can't wait!
>
> > > > --
> > > > "I admit that there are good white men,
> > > > but they bear no proportion to the bad.
> > > > The bad must be strongest, for they rule.
> > > > They enslave those not of their color.
> > > > There is no faith to be placed in their words."
>
> > > > - Chief Pachgantschilias
>
> > > How I envy you as you are not a fan of either, :-). As a fed fan I am
> > > very much nervous. Nadal is just a bad match-up for fed, no two ways
> > > about it. I just hope fed serves as well as he did against Roddick. I=
f
> > > he can do that, he has a decent chance.
>
> > Nadal returns a lot better than Roddick, and Fed's second serve is
> > just sitting up on this court and saying "hit me". There used to be a
> > time when I believed the match was very much on Fed's racket even on
> > clay, and that if he played anywhere near 80% of his best game he
> > would beat Nadal. These days, I fear that Nadal is just better than
> > Fed on all surfaces, and its more about how well Nadal plays than
> > Fed...
>
> Nadal is not "just better than fed". Nadal is a bad match-up for Fed.
> However, Nadal cannot dominate the rest of the field like how Fed had
> done (outside of clay) because his overall game is not as superior to
> the field as fed's is.

That may have been true before but I don't think its true now. Fed can
prove me wrong with a decisive victory tonight, but I won't be holding
my breath...


  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 11:01:39
From: Shakes
Subject: Re: should be another classic final
On Jan 31, 10:27 am, RahimAsif <RahimA...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 30, 2:29 pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 30, 6:10 am, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
>
> > > can't wait!
>
> > > --
> > > "I admit that there are good white men,
> > > but they bear no proportion to the bad.
> > > The bad must be strongest, for they rule.
> > > They enslave those not of their color.
> > > There is no faith to be placed in their words."
>
> > > - Chief Pachgantschilias
>
> > How I envy you as you are not a fan of either, :-). As a fed fan I am
> > very much nervous. Nadal is just a bad match-up for fed, no two ways
> > about it. I just hope fed serves as well as he did against Roddick. If
> > he can do that, he has a decent chance.
>
> Nadal returns a lot better than Roddick, and Fed's second serve is
> just sitting up on this court and saying "hit me". There used to be a
> time when I believed the match was very much on Fed's racket even on
> clay, and that if he played anywhere near 80% of his best game he
> would beat Nadal. These days, I fear that Nadal is just better than
> Fed on all surfaces, and its more about how well Nadal plays than
> Fed...

Nadal is not "just better than fed". Nadal is a bad match-up for Fed.
However, Nadal cannot dominate the rest of the field like how Fed had
done (outside of clay) because his overall game is not as superior to
the field as fed's is.


  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 10:27:38
From: RahimAsif
Subject: Re: should be another classic final
On Jan 30, 2:29=A0pm, Shakes <kvcsh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 30, 6:10 am, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
>
> > can't wait!
>
> > --
> > "I admit that there are good white men,
> > but they bear no proportion to the bad.
> > The bad must be strongest, for they rule.
> > They enslave those not of their color.
> > There is no faith to be placed in their words."
>
> > - Chief Pachgantschilias
>
> How I envy you as you are not a fan of either, :-). As a fed fan I am
> very much nervous. Nadal is just a bad match-up for fed, no two ways
> about it. I just hope fed serves as well as he did against Roddick. If
> he can do that, he has a decent chance.

Nadal returns a lot better than Roddick, and Fed's second serve is
just sitting up on this court and saying "hit me". There used to be a
time when I believed the match was very much on Fed's racket even on
clay, and that if he played anywhere near 80% of his best game he
would beat Nadal. These days, I fear that Nadal is just better than
Fed on all surfaces, and its more about how well Nadal plays than
Fed...


  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 09:43:29
From:
Subject: Re: should be another classic final

> > How I envy you as you are not a fan of either, :-). As a fed fan I am
> > very much nervous. Nadal is just a bad match-up for fed, no two ways
> > about it.
>
> Tonite i will be rooting for rafa because i am an agassi fan, and don't
> want federer to tie agassi for "best of open era" at the AO, with 4
> titles each. :)

Tut tut - you shouldn't root against players equalling records, at
least that's what Sampras says.

He's happy if Federer equals/beats his 14 slams - rooting against him
is "bad karma" according to Pete ...




  
Date: 31 Jan 2009 10:19:34
From: stephenj
Subject: Re: should be another classic final
Shakes wrote:
> On Jan 30, 6:10 am, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
>> can't wait!
>>
>> --
>> "I admit that there are good white men,
>> but they bear no proportion to the bad.
>> The bad must be strongest, for they rule.
>> They enslave those not of their color.
>> There is no faith to be placed in their words."
>>
>> - Chief Pachgantschilias
>
> How I envy you as you are not a fan of either, :-). As a fed fan I am
> very much nervous. Nadal is just a bad match-up for fed, no two ways
> about it.

Tonite i will be rooting for rafa because i am an agassi fan, and don't
want federer to tie agassi for "best of open era" at the AO, with 4
titles each. :)


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the Constitution would be a mere thing of wax in the hands
of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form
they please".

- Thomas Jefferson


   
Date: 01 Feb 2009 20:04:37
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: should be another classic final
stephenj wrote:
> Shakes wrote:
>> On Jan 30, 6:10 am, stephenj <s...@cox.com> wrote:
>>> can't wait!
>>>
>>> --
>>> "I admit that there are good white men,
>>> but they bear no proportion to the bad.
>>> The bad must be strongest, for they rule.
>>> They enslave those not of their color.
>>> There is no faith to be placed in their words."
>>>
>>> - Chief Pachgantschilias
>>
>> How I envy you as you are not a fan of either, :-). As a fed fan I am
>> very much nervous. Nadal is just a bad match-up for fed, no two ways
>> about it.
>
> Tonite i will be rooting for rafa because i am an agassi fan, and don't
> want federer to tie agassi for "best of open era" at the AO, with 4
> titles each. :)
>
>


er, no one cares about that record trust me.



 
Date: 30 Jan 2009 06:21:24
From: Gordon Cameron
Subject: Re: should be another classic final
On Jan 30, 6:10=A0am, stephenj <s...@cox.com > wrote:
> can't wait!
>
> --
> "I admit that there are good white men,
> but they bear no proportion to the bad.
> The bad must be strongest, for they rule.
> They enslave those not of their color.
> There is no faith to be placed in their words."
>
> - Chief Pachgantschilias

Finally, a Roger/Rafa final outside Wimbledon and Roland Garros.
Should be a great one.