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Date: 22 Jun 2004 22:59:45
From: David Henry
Subject: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.

Taylor Dent is out on a public tennis court with a little kid across the net
who's hitting some pretty good shots. The kid is cute. He's got long hair, a
bright smile and is constantly sticking his tongue out at all of the good
shots he's hitting.

Suddenly, Dent isn't just having a light hit with the kid, he's serving full
force and ripping shots, and the kid is smacking them back with interest,
running around the court with that big smile and tongue out of his mouth.

Finally, Dent slams an overhead out of the court, raises his arms and let's
out a primal scream, as if he's just won a grand slam.

Then, a mini van pulls up to the public tennis court, just outside the
fence. The driver honks the horn. Andre Agassi, rolls down the driver side
window and yells to his son: "Hey, buddy. You ready?" Steffi is in the
passenger seat with a little smile.

Jaden Gil runs over to the minivan and says: "Coming." He hops in the back
seat, next to Jaz, who is tucked in a baby seat doing a little dance with
her feet.

The commerical ends with a nice little slogan: "The right genes make all the
difference."

The commercial was by Genworth Financial commercial, a new spinoff company
of GE. Maybe they trade shares for Agassi?

I thought it was a good commerical. It had the same commical flair like
those old RCA commericials with Todd Martin and those little RCA dogs that
kept fetching the tennis ball and getting it sopping wet with saliva.

Another financial company had a great tennis commerical with Phillipousis
and Haas playing underwater. That commerical was more intense and definitely
has the best special effects for a tennis commerical I've seen.

Still, this new commerical was a little gem. What a cute kid. He seemed to
have good form on his strokes, too. He mostly played double-handed off both
sides.

I found the Web site and have the link to the commerical:

http://www.genworth.com/media/index.html

Check it out!

Dave




 
Date: 23 Jun 2004 05:37:55
From: john adams
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com > wrote in message
news:eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
>
> Taylor Dent is out on a public tennis court with a little kid across the
net
> who's hitting some pretty good shots. The kid is cute. He's got long hair,
a
> bright smile and is constantly sticking his tongue out at all of the good
> shots he's hitting.
>
> Suddenly, Dent isn't just having a light hit with the kid, he's serving
full
> force and ripping shots, and the kid is smacking them back with interest,
> running around the court with that big smile and tongue out of his mouth.
>
> Finally, Dent slams an overhead out of the court, raises his arms and
let's
> out a primal scream, as if he's just won a grand slam.
>
> Then, a mini van pulls up to the public tennis court, just outside the
> fence. The driver honks the horn. Andre Agassi, rolls down the driver side
> window and yells to his son: "Hey, buddy. You ready?" Steffi is in the
> passenger seat with a little smile.
>
> Jaden Gil runs over to the minivan and says: "Coming." He hops in the back
> seat, next to Jaz, who is tucked in a baby seat doing a little dance with
> her feet.
>
> The commerical ends with a nice little slogan: "The right genes make all
the
> difference."

Not to sound too mocking, but was the point of this commerical to promote
eugenics?

> The commercial was by Genworth Financial commercial, a new spinoff company
> of GE. Maybe they trade shares for Agassi?
>
> I thought it was a good commerical. It had the same commical flair like
> those old RCA commericials with Todd Martin and those little RCA dogs that
> kept fetching the tennis ball and getting it sopping wet with saliva.
>
> Another financial company had a great tennis commerical with Phillipousis
> and Haas playing underwater. That commerical was more intense and
definitely
> has the best special effects for a tennis commerical I've seen.
>
> Still, this new commerical was a little gem. What a cute kid. He seemed to
> have good form on his strokes, too. He mostly played double-handed off
both
> sides.
>
> I found the Web site and have the link to the commerical:
>
> http://www.genworth.com/media/index.html
>
> Check it out!
>
> Dave
>
>




  
Date: 23 Jun 2004 01:10:38
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"john adams" <nospam@nospam.com > wrote in message
news:TG8Cc.14885$M96.822@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
> "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> > I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
> >
> > Taylor Dent is out on a public tennis court with a little kid across the
> net
> > who's hitting some pretty good shots. The kid is cute. He's got long
hair,
> a
> > bright smile and is constantly sticking his tongue out at all of the
good
> > shots he's hitting.
> >
> > Suddenly, Dent isn't just having a light hit with the kid, he's serving
> full
> > force and ripping shots, and the kid is smacking them back with
interest,
> > running around the court with that big smile and tongue out of his
mouth.
> >
> > Finally, Dent slams an overhead out of the court, raises his arms and
> let's
> > out a primal scream, as if he's just won a grand slam.
> >
> > Then, a mini van pulls up to the public tennis court, just outside the
> > fence. The driver honks the horn. Andre Agassi, rolls down the driver
side
> > window and yells to his son: "Hey, buddy. You ready?" Steffi is in the
> > passenger seat with a little smile.
> >
> > Jaden Gil runs over to the minivan and says: "Coming." He hops in the
back
> > seat, next to Jaz, who is tucked in a baby seat doing a little dance
with
> > her feet.
> >
> > The commerical ends with a nice little slogan: "The right genes make all
> the
> > difference."
>
> Not to sound too mocking, but was the point of this commerical to promote
> eugenics?

Not at all. "The right genes make all the difference is a play off the fact
that the company is the offspring of GE.

Read their print ad in the following link and you'll see what I mean.

http://www.genworth.com/media/gnw_launch.pdf

Dave





   
Date: 23 Jun 2004 08:12:35
From: john adams
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com > wrote in message
news:0t2dnXC1gvRtsUTdRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>
> "john adams" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:TG8Cc.14885$M96.822@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> >
> > "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> > > I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
> > >
> > > Taylor Dent is out on a public tennis court with a little kid across
the
> > net
> > > who's hitting some pretty good shots. The kid is cute. He's got long
> hair,
> > a
> > > bright smile and is constantly sticking his tongue out at all of the
> good
> > > shots he's hitting.
> > >
> > > Suddenly, Dent isn't just having a light hit with the kid, he's
serving
> > full
> > > force and ripping shots, and the kid is smacking them back with
> interest,
> > > running around the court with that big smile and tongue out of his
> mouth.
> > >
> > > Finally, Dent slams an overhead out of the court, raises his arms and
> > let's
> > > out a primal scream, as if he's just won a grand slam.
> > >
> > > Then, a mini van pulls up to the public tennis court, just outside the
> > > fence. The driver honks the horn. Andre Agassi, rolls down the driver
> side
> > > window and yells to his son: "Hey, buddy. You ready?" Steffi is in the
> > > passenger seat with a little smile.
> > >
> > > Jaden Gil runs over to the minivan and says: "Coming." He hops in the
> back
> > > seat, next to Jaz, who is tucked in a baby seat doing a little dance
> with
> > > her feet.
> > >
> > > The commerical ends with a nice little slogan: "The right genes make
all
> > the
> > > difference."
> >
> > Not to sound too mocking, but was the point of this commerical to
promote
> > eugenics?
>
> Not at all. "The right genes make all the difference is a play off the
fact
> that the company is the offspring of GE.
>
> Read their print ad in the following link and you'll see what I mean.
>
> http://www.genworth.com/media/gnw_launch.pdf

Ok, just checking. I have read that G.E. lent support to the hitler
regime back in the days when national socialism was trendy. Brutal
irony that would be.




 
Date: 23 Jun 2004 08:40:58
From: samn
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
"David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com > wrote in
news:eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com:


> I found the Web site and have the link to the commerical:
>
> http://www.genworth.com/media/index.html

Er, I don't think the kid in the commercial is Jaden Gil. He looks a lot
older than three, for starters.

___________________________

samn <at > techie <dot> com


  
Date: 23 Jun 2004 08:03:23
From: Robert B. Waltz
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
samn <noname@noname.com > wrote:

> "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote in
> news:eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com:
>
>
> > I found the Web site and have the link to the commerical:
> >
> > http://www.genworth.com/media/index.html
>
> Er, I don't think the kid in the commercial is Jaden Gil. He looks a lot
> older than three, for starters.

Agreed. Also, I really don't think Graf would let her kid be
involved in such a thing. I'm rather surprised she decided to
appear herself. Agassi, of course, isn't bothered by it. But
Graf has said repeatedly that she won't let her kids be
pressured into tennis. And if appearing in such a commercial
isn't pressure, I don't know what is.

--
Unneccessary assumptions are the root of all evil.


   
Date: 23 Jun 2004 11:09:58
From: Marius Hancu
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
Robert B. Waltz wrote:

>>>I found the Web site and have the link to the commerical:
>>>
>>>http://www.genworth.com/media/index.html
>>
>>Er, I don't think the kid in the commercial is Jaden Gil. He looks a lot
>>older than three, for starters.
>
>
> Agreed. Also, I really don't think Graf would let her kid be
> involved in such a thing. I'm rather surprised she decided to
> appear herself. Agassi, of course, isn't bothered by it. But
> Graf has said repeatedly that she won't let her kids be
> pressured into tennis. And if appearing in such a commercial
> isn't pressure, I don't know what is.

I must tell you that to me he looked like Jaden Gil.

I have a recording with Graf holding him in her arms when he was 2,
and it seems to be the same kid ...

Marius Hancu



    
Date: 23 Jun 2004 10:25:43
From: Robert B. Waltz
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
Marius Hancu <NOSPAM@videotron.ca > wrote:

[ ... ]

> I must tell you that to me he looked like Jaden Gil.
>
> I have a recording with Graf holding him in her arms when he was 2,
> and it seems to be the same kid ...

The issue isn't appearance; they'll try to get a kid who looks
right. The issue is age. Unless they used a time machine and
shot the commercial in 2006.... :-)

And this still doesn't answer the fact that Graf seems unlikely
to do such a thing.

--
Unneccessary assumptions are the root of all evil.


     
Date: 23 Jun 2004 10:27:08
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Robert B. Waltz" <waltzmn@skypoint.com > wrote in message
news:waltzmn-77FFD3.10254223062004@corp.supernews.com...
> Marius Hancu <NOSPAM@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > I must tell you that to me he looked like Jaden Gil.
> >
> > I have a recording with Graf holding him in her arms when he was 2,
> > and it seems to be the same kid ...
>
> The issue isn't appearance; they'll try to get a kid who looks
> right. The issue is age. Unless they used a time machine and
> shot the commercial in 2006.... :-)
>
> And this still doesn't answer the fact that Graf seems unlikely
> to do such a thing.


If you look, Graf does look a little uncomfortable in the passenger seat.
She's holding her arm, looking a little uneasy. And at the end, when she and
Agassi looked in the back seat, she didn't even do a full turn back, while
Andre did.

Dave





    
Date: 23 Jun 2004 15:34:57
From: Amy Cottrell
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Marius Hancu" <NOSPAM@videotron.ca > wrote in message
news:40D99D46.8050405@videotron.ca...
> Robert B. Waltz wrote:
>
> >>>I found the Web site and have the link to the commerical:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.genworth.com/media/index.html
> >>
> >>Er, I don't think the kid in the commercial is Jaden Gil. He looks a lot
> >>older than three, for starters.
> >
> >
> > Agreed. Also, I really don't think Graf would let her kid be
> > involved in such a thing. I'm rather surprised she decided to
> > appear herself. Agassi, of course, isn't bothered by it. But
> > Graf has said repeatedly that she won't let her kids be
> > pressured into tennis. And if appearing in such a commercial
> > isn't pressure, I don't know what is.
>
> I must tell you that to me he looked like Jaden Gil.
>
> I have a recording with Graf holding him in her arms when he was 2,
> and it seems to be the same kid ...

It is not the same kid.
1) This boy is too old; Jaden isn't even 3 years old yet.
2) He really doesn't look much like Jaden.
http://home1.gte.net/cpq1wzv4/jpegs/jaden5.jpg and
http://tinyurl.com/2jzhv Eyes, nose, and mouth aren't too similar.
3) According to sources, the boy's name is Connor and he is the son of a
teaching pro in California.






     
Date: 23 Jun 2004 10:29:31
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Amy Cottrell" <amy.cottrell.Remove.This@gte.net.To.Reply > wrote in message
news:BqhCc.12843$mG4.3338@nwrddc03.gnilink.net...
>
> "Marius Hancu" <NOSPAM@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:40D99D46.8050405@videotron.ca...
> > Robert B. Waltz wrote:
> >
> > >>>I found the Web site and have the link to the commerical:
> > >>>
> > >>>http://www.genworth.com/media/index.html
> > >>
> > >>Er, I don't think the kid in the commercial is Jaden Gil. He looks a
lot
> > >>older than three, for starters.
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed. Also, I really don't think Graf would let her kid be
> > > involved in such a thing. I'm rather surprised she decided to
> > > appear herself. Agassi, of course, isn't bothered by it. But
> > > Graf has said repeatedly that she won't let her kids be
> > > pressured into tennis. And if appearing in such a commercial
> > > isn't pressure, I don't know what is.
> >
> > I must tell you that to me he looked like Jaden Gil.
> >
> > I have a recording with Graf holding him in her arms when he was 2,
> > and it seems to be the same kid ...
>
> It is not the same kid.
> 1) This boy is too old; Jaden isn't even 3 years old yet.
> 2) He really doesn't look much like Jaden.
> http://home1.gte.net/cpq1wzv4/jpegs/jaden5.jpg and
> http://tinyurl.com/2jzhv Eyes, nose, and mouth aren't too similar.
> 3) According to sources, the boy's name is Connor and he is the son of a
> teaching pro in California.

The picture shown in the second link Amy has was the pic SportsCentury:
Steffi Graf ended with. I think it's a sweet photo of the family.

And you're right, there's no way that's Jaden Gil. Shows how much I keep
track of ages. I guess I just assumed that kids grow up real fast these
days.

Dave : >





     
Date: 23 Jun 2004 10:07:50
From: naniwadekar
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Amy Cottrell" wrote -
>
> >
> > I have a recording with Graf holding him in her arms when he was 2,
> > and it seems to be the same kid ...
>
> It is not the same kid.
> 1) This boy is too old; Jaden isn't even 3 years old yet.
> 2) He really doesn't look much like Jaden.
>

Is it my imagination or does the kid look and esp. run a lot
like Steffi ? But the kid was definitely born before Sept 2001
and isn't Jaden.


I think Waltz is making too much of it when he says appearing
in such a commercial puts pressure on the kid. Being Steffi's
son can be pressure enough. Or maybe not. After all the boy
is an independent individual and his own temparament will play
a part in his life, too.

But the commercial is a bit crass on Agassi and Steffi's part.
Such parents tend to be the first to complain when their
children face pressure but they also want to have it both ways.





 
Date: 23 Jun 2004 09:50:49
From: Marius Hancu
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
David Henry wrote:

> I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.

> Then, a mini van pulls up to the public tennis court, just outside the
> fence. The driver honks the horn. Andre Agassi, rolls down the driver side
> window and yells to his son: "Hey, buddy. You ready?" Steffi is in the
> passenger seat with a little smile.
>
> Jaden Gil runs over to the minivan and says: "Coming." He hops in the back
> seat, next to Jaz, who is tucked in a baby seat doing a little dance with
> her feet.
> I found the Web site and have the link to the commerical:
>
> http://www.genworth.com/media/index.html
>
> Check it out!

I did. It's very slick ...

However, I am disappointed, if not in Agassi, who's that much involved
into commercial stuff to the extent he might not be able to see
anything amiss in involving his own kid into something like this, but
in Steffi, which seemed to me a more reserved person in her dealing
with exposure in the medias.

To some extent, this is child exploitation and exposing your child
early to the mill of the world, with all its bad influences. Jaden
might be forced to grow under cameras anyway, should this be
promoted further by his own parents?

Maybe I am too old-fashioned, but ...

Marius Hancu



 
Date: 24 Jun 2004 00:26:48
From: SV
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com > wrote in message
news:eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
>
> Taylor Dent is out on a public tennis court with a little kid across the
net
> who's hitting some pretty good shots. The kid is cute. He's got long hair,
a
> bright smile and is constantly sticking his tongue out at all of the good
> shots he's hitting.
>
> Suddenly, Dent isn't just having a light hit with the kid, he's serving
full
> force and ripping shots, and the kid is smacking them back with interest,
> running around the court with that big smile and tongue out of his mouth.
>
> Finally, Dent slams an overhead out of the court, raises his arms and
let's
> out a primal scream, as if he's just won a grand slam.
>
> Then, a mini van pulls up to the public tennis court, just outside the
> fence. The driver honks the horn. Andre Agassi, rolls down the driver side
> window and yells to his son: "Hey, buddy. You ready?" Steffi is in the
> passenger seat with a little smile.
>
> Jaden Gil runs over to the minivan...

Hate to tell you, but no way on this earth that's Jaden. Not even close.
If you've ever seen him you'd know. Even compared it to some pictures I
have and it's more likely to be the Sampras-Whisper love-child than Jaden
Gil...




  
Date: 24 Jun 2004 01:08:34
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"SV" <serve@volley.com > wrote in message
news:40d99300$0$18668$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> > I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
> >
> > Taylor Dent is out on a public tennis court with a little kid across the
> net
> > who's hitting some pretty good shots. The kid is cute. He's got long
hair,
> a
> > bright smile and is constantly sticking his tongue out at all of the
good
> > shots he's hitting.
> >
> > Suddenly, Dent isn't just having a light hit with the kid, he's serving
> full
> > force and ripping shots, and the kid is smacking them back with
interest,
> > running around the court with that big smile and tongue out of his
mouth.
> >
> > Finally, Dent slams an overhead out of the court, raises his arms and
> let's
> > out a primal scream, as if he's just won a grand slam.
> >
> > Then, a mini van pulls up to the public tennis court, just outside the
> > fence. The driver honks the horn. Andre Agassi, rolls down the driver
side
> > window and yells to his son: "Hey, buddy. You ready?" Steffi is in the
> > passenger seat with a little smile.
> >
> > Jaden Gil runs over to the minivan...
>
> Hate to tell you, but no way on this earth that's Jaden. Not even close.
> If you've ever seen him you'd know. Even compared it to some pictures I
> have and it's more likely to be the Sampras-Whisper love-child than Jaden
> Gil...
>
>

Actually I looked like the kid at that age....... : )





   
Date: 23 Jun 2004 10:30:19
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Whisper" <itchybeaver99@tpg.com.au > wrote in message
news:40d99cf6@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
> "SV" <serve@volley.com> wrote in message
> news:40d99300$0$18668$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
> >
> > "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com...
> > > I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
> > >
> > > Taylor Dent is out on a public tennis court with a little kid across
the
> > net
> > > who's hitting some pretty good shots. The kid is cute. He's got long
> hair,
> > a
> > > bright smile and is constantly sticking his tongue out at all of the
> good
> > > shots he's hitting.
> > >
> > > Suddenly, Dent isn't just having a light hit with the kid, he's
serving
> > full
> > > force and ripping shots, and the kid is smacking them back with
> interest,
> > > running around the court with that big smile and tongue out of his
> mouth.
> > >
> > > Finally, Dent slams an overhead out of the court, raises his arms and
> > let's
> > > out a primal scream, as if he's just won a grand slam.
> > >
> > > Then, a mini van pulls up to the public tennis court, just outside the
> > > fence. The driver honks the horn. Andre Agassi, rolls down the driver
> side
> > > window and yells to his son: "Hey, buddy. You ready?" Steffi is in the
> > > passenger seat with a little smile.
> > >
> > > Jaden Gil runs over to the minivan...
> >
> > Hate to tell you, but no way on this earth that's Jaden. Not even
close.
> > If you've ever seen him you'd know. Even compared it to some pictures I
> > have and it's more likely to be the Sampras-Whisper love-child than
Jaden
> > Gil...
> >
> >
>
> Actually I looked like the kid at that age....... : )


Resemblance? So then it's true...? ; >

Dave





  
Date: 23 Jun 2004 14:41:45
From: Undecided
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
probably is jaden gill. how can his parents appear with a stunt double?


   
Date: 23 Jun 2004 18:12:24
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Undecided" <c_zachariadis@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:5af49a14.0406231341.2f5de7a1@posting.google.com...
> probably is jaden gill. how can his parents appear with a stunt double?


Yeah, that part of it seems a bit forced. What benefit is gotten if the kid
really doesn't have Graf and Agassi's genes? Still, they didn't exaclty
advertise that it was their kid; it was simply implied.

Dave




    
Date: 24 Jun 2004 12:03:33
From:
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
In article <INqdndsBgP_1gUfdRVn-jw@comcast.com >, telemachus7@msn.com
(David Henry) wrote:

>
> "Undecided" <c_zachariadis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5af49a14.0406231341.2f5de7a1@posting.google.com...
> > probably is jaden gill. how can his parents appear with a stunt
> > double?
>
>
> Yeah, that part of it seems a bit forced. What benefit is gotten if the
> kid
> really doesn't have Graf and Agassi's genes? Still, they didn't exaclty
> advertise that it was their kid; it was simply implied.

It makes me uncomfortable exactly the way the
Clement/not-his-real-girlfriend ad did. It's using real people as
themselves in an ad and we are supposed to think we're seeing a slice of
their real lives, except that the relationships are fictionalized with
actors.

wg


     
Date: 24 Jun 2004 11:04:48
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

<wendyg@cix.compulink.co.uk > wrote in message
news:cbeful$l7m$1@thorium.cix.co.uk...
> In article <INqdndsBgP_1gUfdRVn-jw@comcast.com>, telemachus7@msn.com
> (David Henry) wrote:
>
> >
> > "Undecided" <c_zachariadis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:5af49a14.0406231341.2f5de7a1@posting.google.com...
> > > probably is jaden gill. how can his parents appear with a stunt
> > > double?
> >
> >
> > Yeah, that part of it seems a bit forced. What benefit is gotten if the
> > kid
> > really doesn't have Graf and Agassi's genes? Still, they didn't exaclty
> > advertise that it was their kid; it was simply implied.
>
> It makes me uncomfortable exactly the way the
> Clement/not-his-real-girlfriend ad did. It's using real people as
> themselves in an ad and we are supposed to think we're seeing a slice of
> their real lives, except that the relationships are fictionalized with
> actors.
>
> wg


I didn't get a chance to see that commerical. Any links?

But you're right about fictionalizing the relationships. On the other hand,
folks are really about privacy these days and there's a good chance
Clement's real girlfriend doesn't want any limelight.

Dave




      
Date: 24 Jun 2004 12:35:20
From: Robert B. Waltz
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
"David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com > wrote:

[ ... ]

> I didn't get a chance to see that commerical. Any links?
>
> But you're right about fictionalizing the relationships. On the other hand,
> folks are really about privacy these days and there's a good chance
> Clement's real girlfriend doesn't want any limelight.

Clement's real girlfried is Camille Pin, who is also a pro
tennis player, so she's in the limelight anyway. At least in
France.

Especially as she is very, very pretty.

--
Unneccessary assumptions are the root of all evil.


       
Date: 24 Jun 2004 20:38:47
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Robert B. Waltz" <waltzmn@skypoint.com > wrote in message
news:waltzmn-FDF84E.12352024062004@corp.supernews.com...
> "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > I didn't get a chance to see that commerical. Any links?
> >
> > But you're right about fictionalizing the relationships. On the other
hand,
> > folks are really about privacy these days and there's a good chance
> > Clement's real girlfriend doesn't want any limelight.
>
> Clement's real girlfried is Camille Pin, who is also a pro
> tennis player, so she's in the limelight anyway. At least in
> France.
>
> Especially as she is very, very pretty.

Ahh... Didn't know. I know almost nothing about the French players and their
personal lives.

Thanks,
Dave





 
Date: 23 Jun 2004 09:26:40
From: Anonymous Coward
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
Very cute indeed, thanks for the link

"David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com > wrote in message news:<eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com>...
> I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
>


 
Date: 23 Jun 2004 10:01:55
From: Gordon Cameron
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
"David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com > wrote in message news:<eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com>...
> I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
>

Reminds me of the spooky commercial from BNP Paribas that they were
playing at the FO -- the baby in the crib who serves a tennis ball
with his hand. That commercial totally creeped me out; the little CGI
baby from the "serve" shot looked like something out of the Exorcist.


  
Date: 23 Jun 2004 17:37:00
From: john adams
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Gordon Cameron" <gcameron@neteze.com > wrote in message
news:9757ab12.0406230819.35da3e52@posting.google.com...
> "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:<eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com >...
> > I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
> >
>
> Reminds me of the spooky commercial from BNP Paribas that they were
> playing at the FO -- the baby in the crib who serves a tennis ball
> with his hand. That commercial totally creeped me out; the little CGI
> baby from the "serve" shot looked like something out of the Exorcist.

It mine as well floated in the air and spit green vomit too. These days
commercials seek ever greater heights of the incredible. Tirelessly
so. People are so acclimated to - or bored - of realistic ads that their
attention must be bought somehow.




  
Date: 23 Jun 2004 12:48:24
From: Robert B. Waltz
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
gcameron@neteze.com (Gordon Cameron) wrote:

> "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:<eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com>...
> > I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
> >
>
> Reminds me of the spooky commercial from BNP Paribas that they were
> playing at the FO -- the baby in the crib who serves a tennis ball
> with his hand. That commercial totally creeped me out; the little CGI
> baby from the "serve" shot looked like something out of the Exorcist.

This is actually worse. That one was mechanically possible if
you used an android kid. This commercial is *not possible*;
a kid that low to the ground cannot hit a shot in the court
that hard.

Why they think this will appeal to people is beyond me.
What is the point of pretending to the physically
impossible? (And if people don't know it's impossible,
well, it's time we fixed the education system that allows
people with so little physics to have control of money.)

--
Unneccessary assumptions are the root of all evil.


   
Date: 23 Jun 2004 12:10:19
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Robert B. Waltz" <waltzmn@skypoint.com > wrote in message
news:waltzmn-9BFD06.12482423062004@corp.supernews.com...
> gcameron@neteze.com (Gordon Cameron) wrote:
>
> > "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:<eqqdnVt4a-ffk0TdRVn-uw@comcast.com>...
> > > I just saw the cutest tennis commercial.
> > >
> >
> > Reminds me of the spooky commercial from BNP Paribas that they were
> > playing at the FO -- the baby in the crib who serves a tennis ball
> > with his hand. That commercial totally creeped me out; the little CGI
> > baby from the "serve" shot looked like something out of the Exorcist.
>
> This is actually worse. That one was mechanically possible if
> you used an android kid. This commercial is *not possible*;
> a kid that low to the ground cannot hit a shot in the court
> that hard.
>
> Why they think this will appeal to people is beyond me.
> What is the point of pretending to the physically
> impossible? (And if people don't know it's impossible,
> well, it's time we fixed the education system that allows
> people with so little physics to have control of money.)


The kid was hitting the ball over the net, but obviously not with that much
velocity. That's why I commented on his "form" as opposed to the actual
strokes crossing the net.

Commercials these days deserve the same type of suspension of disbelief as
movies.

I don't knock Andre and Steffi for taking part (since we've now been
informed that the kid(s) were not theirs. The bigger question would be why
use Taylor Dent? It probably would have been funnier to see Roddick, who is
more expressive, or Sampras being given a tough time by Agassi's "kid."

Dave




    
Date: 23 Jun 2004 14:04:14
From: Robert B. Waltz
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
"David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com > wrote:

[ ... ]

> Commercials these days deserve the same type of suspension of disbelief as
> movies.

Why? If it can't happen, what's the point? There's no excuse for
bad physics (note that I do not say *imaginary* physics, such
as faster-than-light travel, but *bad* physics) in movies.

> I don't knock Andre and Steffi for taking part (since we've now been
> informed that the kid(s) were not theirs. The bigger question would be why
> use Taylor Dent? It probably would have been funnier to see Roddick, who is
> more expressive, or Sampras being given a tough time by Agassi's "kid."

That's obvious: Having already paid Agassi and Graf, they had
used up all their tennis player budget. Dent came cheap. :-)

--
Unneccessary assumptions are the root of all evil.


     
Date: 23 Jun 2004 14:48:27
From: David Henry
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent

"Robert B. Waltz" <waltzmn@skypoint.com > wrote in message
news:waltzmn-B718D4.14041423062004@corp.supernews.com...
> "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
> > Commercials these days deserve the same type of suspension of disbelief
as
> > movies.
>
> Why? If it can't happen, what's the point? There's no excuse for
> bad physics (note that I do not say *imaginary* physics, such
> as faster-than-light travel, but *bad* physics) in movies.
>
> > I don't knock Andre and Steffi for taking part (since we've now been
> > informed that the kid(s) were not theirs. The bigger question would be
why
> > use Taylor Dent? It probably would have been funnier to see Roddick, who
is
> > more expressive, or Sampras being given a tough time by Agassi's "kid."
>
> That's obvious: Having already paid Agassi and Graf, they had
> used up all their tennis player budget. Dent came cheap. :-)

Yeah, I assumed as much, but if GE is big brother, they've got some deep
pockets.

Still a successful commerical, though, that was aired at a good time on the
right channel. A really can't miss situation.

Dave





     
Date: 25 Jun 2004 19:46:02
From: Daniel Damouth
Subject: Re: Jaden Gil Agassi (in first TV commercial) w/ Taylor Dent
"Robert B. Waltz" <waltzmn@skypoint.com > wrote in
news:waltzmn-B718D4.14041423062004@corp.supernews.com:

> "David Henry" <telemachus7@msn.com> wrote:
>
> [ ... ]
>
>> Commercials these days deserve the same type of suspension of
>> disbelief as movies.
>
> Why? If it can't happen, what's the point?

Surely you know why. Because it's entertaining and amusing to lots of
people.

> There's no excuse for
> bad physics (note that I do not say *imaginary* physics, such
> as faster-than-light travel, but *bad* physics) in movies.

It's a fairy tale.

-Dan Damouth