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Date: 18 Nov 2006 15:01:09
From: ZepFloYes
Subject: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
their greatest song. I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
epics. Overall a very good list.
001 - Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven.mp3
002 - The Rolling Stones - Satisfaction.mp3
003 - Derek and the Dominos - Layla.mp3
004 - The Beatles - A Day In The Life.mp3
005 - The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again.mp3
006 - The Doors - Light My Fire.mp3
007 - Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb.mp3
008 - The Eagles - Hotel California.mp3
009 - Bruce Springsteen - Born To Run.mp3
010 - John Lennon - Imagine.mp3
011 - Led Zeppelin - Rock And Roll.mp3
012 - The Who - Baba O'Riley.mp3
013 - The Rolling Stones - It's Only Rock 'N Roll.mp3
014 - Cream - White Room.mp3
015 - The Beatles - Yesterday.mp3
016 - Jimi Hendrix - Purple Haze.mp3
017 - Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody.mp3
018 - Grateful Dead - Truckin'.mp3
019 - Pink Floyd - Money.mp3
020 - Bob Dylan - Like A Rolling Stone.mp3
021 - Moody Blues - Nights In White Satin.mp3
022 - Led Zeppelin - Kashmir.mp3
023 - The Who - Behind Blue Eyes.mp3
024 - Yes - Roundabout.mp3
025 - The Doors - Roadhouse Blues.mp3
026 - Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit.mp3
027 - The Beatles - Hey Jude.mp3
028 - Jethro Tull - Aqualung.mp3
029 - Aerosmith - Dream On.mp3
030 - The Rolling Stones - Jumping Jack Flash.mp3
031 - Led Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love.mp3
032 - Lynyrd Skynyrd - Freebird.mp3
033 - Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here.mp3
034 - The Kinks - You Really Got Me.mp3
035 - Kansas - Carry On My Wayward Son.mp3
036 - Grateful Dead - Casey Jones.mp3
037 - Free - All Right Now.mp3
038 - Boston - More Than A Feeling.mp3
039 - The Beatles - Let It Be.mp3
040 - Eric Clapton - Cocaine.mp3
041 - Led Zeppelin - Black Dog.mp3
042 - The Doors - L.A. Woman.mp3
043 - The Who - My Generation.mp3
044 - The Rolling Stones - Brown Sugar.mp3
045 - Cream - Sunshine Of Your Love.mp3
046 - Deep Purple - Smoke On The Water.mp3
047 - Jimi Hendrix - Hey Joe.mp3
048 - John Lennon - Instant Karma!.mp3
049 - Animals - House of the Rising Sun.mp3
050 - Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild.mp3
051 - Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.mp3
052 - The Beatles - While My Guitar Gently Weeps.mp3
053 - The Doors - Touch Me.mp3
054 - The Rolling Stones - Sympathy For the Devil.mp3
055 - Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall.mp3
056 - Led Zeppelin - Communication Breakdown.mp3
057 - Jimi Hendrix - Foxy Lady.mp3
058 - Aerosmith - Walk This Way.mp3
059 - The Who - Pinball Wizard.mp3
060 - Paul McCartney - Maybe I'm Amazed.mp3
061 - The Police - Every Breath You Take.mp3
062 - Elton John - Bennie And The Jets.mp3
063 - Fleetwood Mac - Rhiannon.mp3
064 - David Bowie - Changes.mp3
065 - Bob Dylan - Lay Lady Lay.mp3
066 - Bruce Springsteen - Dancing In The Dark.mp3
067 - Van Morrison - Brown Eyed Girl.mp3
068 - Jimi Hendrix - Fire.mp3
069 - Rod Stewart - Maggie May.mp3
070 - The Doors - Break On Through.mp3
071 - Don McLean - American Pie.mp3
072 - Led Zeppelin - Thank You.mp3
073 - Pink Floyd - Hey You.mp3
074 - Jefferson Airplane - Somebody To Love.mp3
075 - The Beatles - Something.mp3
076 - Allman Brothers Band - Ramblin' Man.mp3
077 - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Runnin' Down a Dream.mp3
078 - Jimi Hendrix - All Along The Watchtower.mp3
079 - Crosby, Stills, Nash - Woodstock.mp3
080 - Grand Funk Railroad - We're An American Band.mp3
081 - The Kinks - Lola.mp3
082 - Manfred Mann - Blinded By The Light.mp3
083 - The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter.mp3
084 - Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way.mp3
085 - The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band & With A
Little Help From My Friends.mp3
086 - Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Lucky Man.mp3
087 - Eric Clapton - Wonderful Tonight.mp3
088 - Procol Harum - Whiter Shade Of Pale.mp3
089 - Eagles - Heartache Tonight.mp3
090 - Grateful Dead - Touch of Grey.mp3
091 - The Beatles - All You Need Is Love.mp3
092 - Queen - We Will Rock You & We Are The Champions.mp3
093 - David Bowie - Suffragette City.mp3
094 - Pink Floyd - Brain Damage & Eclipse.mp3
095 - Joe Walsh - Rocky Mountain Way.mp3
096 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Fortunate Son.mp3
097 - The Who - Who Are You.mp3
098 - Janis Joplin - Me And Bobby McGee.mp3
099 - The Beatles - The Long And Winding Road.mp3
100 - Electric Light Orchestra - Don't Bring Me Down.mp3
101 - Elton John - Daniel.mp3
102 - The Beatles - Revolution.mp3
103 - Yardbirds - For Your Love.mp3
104 - Bachman Turner Overdrive - You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet.mp3
105 - Paul Mccartney & Wings - Band on the Run.mp3
106 - Van Morrison - Moondance.mp3
107 - Blue Oyster Cult - Don't Fear The Reaper.mp3
108 - The Rolling Stones - Ruby Tuesday.mp3
109 - Doobie Brothers - China Grove.mp3
110 - Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Karn Evil 9.mp3
111 - The Who - Squeeze Box.mp3
112 - Allman Brothers Band - Jessica.mp3
113 - Zombies - Time of the Season.mp3
114 - Pink Floyd - Welcome To The Machine.mp3
115 - The Beatles - Come Together.mp3
116 - Led Zeppelin - Going To California.mp3
117 - The Doors - Hello, I Love You.mp3
118 - The Guess Who - American Woman.mp3
119 - Aerosmith - Sweet Emotion.mp3
120 - Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Ohio.mp3
121 - Iron Butterfly - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.mp3
122 - The Beatles - Eleanor Rigby.mp3
123 - Neil Young - Old Man.mp3
124 - Supertramp - The Logical Song.mp3
125 - Joe Walsh - Life's Been Good.mp3
126 - Fleetwood Mac - Don't Stop.mp3
127 - Electric Light Orchestra - Telephone Line.mp3
128 - Cream - Crossroads.mp3
129 - The Beatles - Day Tripper.mp3
130 - ZZ Top - Legs.mp3
131 - Bad Company - Rock 'n' Roll Fantasy.mp3
132 - The Rolling Stones - Honky Tonk Woman.mp3
133 - Traffic - Low Spark Of The High-Heeled Boys .mp3
134 - The Beatles - Help!.mp3
135 - Elton John - Crockodile Rock.mp3
136 - Eric Clapton - Let It Rain.mp3
137 - George Harrison - What Is Life.mp3
138 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Down On The Corner.mp3
139 - Foreigner - Feels Like The First Time.mp3
140 - David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust.mp3
141 - Genesis - Home By The Sea.mp3
142 - The Eagles - Life In The Fast Lane.mp3
143 - Black Sabbath - Paranoid.mp3
144 - Styx - Come Sail Away.mp3
145 - Byrds - Turn Turn Turn.mp3
146 - Bruce Springsteen - Glory Days.mp3
147 - Edgar Winter Group - Free Ride.mp3
148 - George Harrison - When We Was Fab.mp3
149 - Head East - Never Been Any Reason.mp3
150 - Van Morrison - Domino.mp3
151 - Crosby, Stills & Nash - Suite Judy Blue Eyes.mp3
152 - Queen - Crazy Little Thing Called Love.mp3
153 - Emerson, Lake and Palmer - From The Beginning.mp3
154 - Spencer Davis Group - Gimme Some Lovin'.mp3
155 - The Doors - Love Her Madly.mp3
156 - The Rolling Stones - Under My Thumb.mp3
157 - Led Zeppelin - Immigrant Song.mp3
158 - Yardbirds - Heart Full Of Soul.mp3
159 - Chicago - Saturday In The Park.mp3
160 - Pink Floyd - Time.mp3
161 - The Beatles - In My Life.mp3
162 - Grand Funk Railroad - I'm Your Captain & Closer To Home.mp3
163 - The Eagles - Take It Easy.mp3
164 - Crosby, Stills & Nash - Teach Your Children.mp3
165 - Cat Stevens - Morning Has Broken.mp3
166 - The Who - Long Live Rock.mp3
167 - Dire Straits - Money For Nothing.mp3
168 - Fleetwood Mack - Tusk.mp3
169 - Ted Nugent - Cat Scratch Fever.mp3
170 - Badfinger - Day After Day.mp3
171 - Steve Winwood - Higher Love.mp3
171 - Steve Winwood - Higher LoveRe1.mp3
172 - Bruce Springsteen - Born in the USA.mp3
173 - Kansas - Dust in the Wind.mp3
174 - Elton John - Rocket Man.mp3
175 - The Guess Who - No Time.mp3
176 - Steve Miller Band - Fly Like An Eagle.mp3
177 - Billy Joel - Piano Man.mp3
178 - Grand Funk Railroad - Some Kind Of Wonderful.mp3
179 - The Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want.mp3
180 - Jethro Tull - Locomotive Breath.mp3
181 - Van Halen - Jump.mp3
182 - Cream - Strange Brew.mp3
183 - Janis Joplin - Piece Of My Heart.mp3
184 - The Doors - Love Me Two Times.mp3
185 - The Who - Bargain.mp3
186 - Moody Blues - Your Wildest Dreams.mp3
187 - The Cars - Just What I Needed.mp3
188 - Jackson Browne - Running On Empty.mp3
189 - Neil Young - Cinnamon Girl.mp3
190 - Doobie Brothers - Listen To The Music.mp3
191 - Led Zeppelin - Heartbreaker & Livin' Lovin' Mad.mp3
192 - ACDC - T.N.T..mp3
193 - Queen - Keep Yourself Alive.mp3
194 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Lodi.mp3
195 - Bob Dylan - Tangled Up In Blue.mp3
196 - The Firm - Radioactive.mp3
197 - The Beatles - Eight Days A Week.mp3
198 - Electric Light Orchestra - Evil Woman.mp3
199 - Boston - Rock & Roll Band.mp3
200 - Led Zeppelin - Ramble On.mp3
201 - Kinks - All Day And All Of The Night.mp3
202 - Peter Frampton - Show Me The Way.mp3
203 - Doobie Brothers - Long Train Running.mp3
204 - The Beatles - Ticket To Ride.mp3
205 - The Beach Boys - Good Vibrations.mp3
206 - Lynyrd Skynyrd - Gimme Three Steps.mp3
207 - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Breakdown.mp3
208 - ZZ Top - Tush.mp3
209 - Heart - Crazy On You.mp3
210 - George Harrison - Got My Mind Set On You.mp3
211 - The Rolling Stones - Angie.mp3
212 - Pink Floyd - Us and Them.mp3
213 - Eric Clapton - After Midnight.mp3
214 - Kiss - I Wanna Rock and Roll All Night.mp3
215 - The Guess Who - These Eyes.mp3
216 - ACDC - You Shook Me All Night Long.mp3
217 - The Beatles - Get Back.mp3
218 - Kinks - Well Respected Man.mp3
219 - The Who - I Can't Explain.mp3
220 - The Beatles - Golden Slumbers Melody.mp3
221 - Chicago - Colour My World.mp3
222 - Byrds - Mr. Tambourine Man.mp3
223 - Bruce Springsteen - Tunnel Of Love.mp3
224 - Animals - We've Gotta Get Out Of This Place.mp3
225 - Steely Dan - Do It Again.mp3
226 - Elton John - Honkey Cat.mp3
227 - Fleetwood Mac - The Chain.mp3
228 - Cheap Trick - Surrender.mp3
229 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Bad Moon Rising.mp3
230 - Ted Nugent - Stranglehold.mp3
231 - The Who - 5 15.mp3
232 - The Beatles - Sun King Melody.mp3
233 - Blue Oyster Cult - Godzilla.mp3
234 - Moody Blues - Question.mp3
235 - Blind Faith - Can't Find My Way Home.mp3
236 - The Rolling Stones - Street Fighting Man.mp3
237 - Eric Clapton - Lay Down Sally.mp3
238 - Alice Cooper - No More Mr. Nice Guy.mp3
239 - David Bowie - Space Oddity.mp3
240 - Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth.mp3
241 - The Doors - Riders On The Storm.mp3
242 - Allman Brothers Band - Whipping Post.mp3
243 - The Band - The Weight.mp3
244 - The Beatles - Twist And Shout.mp3
245 - Strawberry Alarm Clock - Incense and Peppermints.mp3
246 - Rascals - People Got To Be Free.mp3
247 - Steely Dan - Reeling In The Years.mp3
248 - Seals & Croft - Summer Breeze.mp3
249 - Bob Dylan - Shelter From The Storm.mp3
250 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - I Heard It Through The
Grapevine.mp3
251 - Led Zeppelin - Trampled Under Foot.mp3
252 - Troggs - Wild Thing.mp3
253 - Electric Light Orchestra - Turn To Stone.mp3
254 - Mountain - Mississippi Queen.mp3
255 - Cat Stevens - Peace Train.mp3
256 - McDonald, Country Joe and the Fish - Fixin' to Die Rag.mp3
257 - Bad Company - Feel Like Making Love.mp3
258 - Heart - Magic Man.mp3
259 - The Beatles - Here Comes The Sun.mp3
260 - Yes - Long Distance Runaround.mp3
261 - Elton John - Your Song.mp3
262 - Fleetwood Mac - Say You Love Me.mp3
263 - The Doors - People Are Strange.mp3
264 - Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing.mp3
265 - Bruce Springsteen - Hungry Heart.mp3
266 - The Beatles - Stawberry Fields Forever.mp3
267 - Steve Miller Band - Jet Airliner.mp3
268 - David Bowie - Young Americans.mp3
269 - George Harrison - All Those Years Ago.mp3
270 - The Who - Eminence Front.mp3
271 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Have You Ever Seen The Rain.mp3
272 - The Beatles - She Loves You.mp3
273 - Eric Clapton - Tears In Heaven.mp3
274 - The Eagles - Already Gone.mp3
275 - Byrds - Eight Miles High.mp3
276 - Doobie Brothers - Black Water.mp3
277 - Todd Rundgren - I Saw The Light.mp3
278 - Badfinger - Come And Get It.mp3
279 - Young Rascals - Good Lovin.mp3
280 - Moody Blues - Tuesday Afternoon.mp3
281 - The Rolling Stones - Heartbreaker.mp3
282 - Steppenwolf - Magic Carpet Ride.mp3
283 - Led Zeppelin - Over The Hills And Far Away.mp3
284 - Lynyrd Skynyrd - Sweet Home Alabama.mp3
285 - Chicago - 25 Or 6 To 4.mp3
286 - Steely Dan - Rikki Don't Lose That Number.mp3
287 - The Guess Who - Laughing.mp3
288 - The Rolling Stones - Paint It Black.mp3
289 - The Who - I Can See For Miles.mp3
290 - The Beatles - I Want To Hold Your Hand.mp3
291 - Alice Cooper - I'm Eighteen.mp3
292 - Byrds - So You Want To Be A Rock 'n' Roll Star.mp3
293 - Nazareth - Love Hurts.mp3
294 - Foghat - Fool for the City.mp3
295 - Bob Dylan - Blowin' In The Wind.mp3
296 - Styx - Renegade.mp3
297 - Rush - New World Man.mp3
298 - The Who - The Kids Are Alright.mp3
299 - Kinks - Tired Of Waiting For You.mp3
300 - The Beatles - Paperback Writer.mp3
301 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Green River.mp3
302 - Bad Company - Cant Get Enough of Your Love.mp3
303 - Electric Light Orchestra - Fire On High.mp3
304 - The Band - Up On Cripple Creek.mp3
305 - Deep Purple - Hush.mp3
306 - James Gang - Walk Away.mp3
307 - Argent - Hold Your Head Up.mp3
308 - Yes - Owner Of A Lonely Heart.mp3
309 - Elton John - Levon.mp3
310 - Led Zeppelin - Misty Mountain Hop.mp3
311 - Crosby, Stills, Nash - Long Time Gone.mp3
312 - Paul Simon - Kodachrome.mp3
313 - Bob Seger - Against The Wind.mp3
314 - The Rolling Stones - Play With Fire.mp3
315 - The Beatles - Penny Lane.mp3
316 - Supertramp - Give a Little Bit.mp3
317 - Steely Dan - FM.mp3
318 - Bruce Springsteen - Brilliant Disguise.mp3
319 - Allman Brothers Band - Midnight Rider.mp3
320 - Derek and the Dominos - 10 - Bell Bottom Blues.mp3
321 - Pink Floyd - Young Lust.mp3
322 - Moody Blues - Ride My See-Saw.mp3
323 - Steve Miller Band - Take the Money and Run.mp3
324 - Uriah Heep - Easy Livin'.mp3
325 - The Who - My Wife.mp3
326 - Kinks - Destroyer.mp3
327 - The Beatles - We Can Work It Out.mp3
328 - Elton John - Tiny Dancer.mp3
329 - John Fogerty - Centerfield.mp3
330 - Zombies - She's Not There.mp3
331 - Boston - Foreplay, Long Time.mp3
332 - Bachman Turner Overdrive - Taking Care of Business.mp3
333 - Cheap Trick - I Want You To Want Me.mp3
334 - George Harrison - My Sweet Lord.mp3
335 - Badfinger - No Matter What.mp3
336 - Animals - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood.mp3
337 - Led Zeppelin - Fool In The Rain.mp3
338 - Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick.mp3
339 - The Rolling Stones - Get Off Of My Cloud.mp3
340 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Proud Mary.mp3
341 - Chicago - Beginnings.mp3
342 - Bruce Springsteen - I'm Going Down.mp3
343 - The Who - Magic Bus.mp3
344 - America - Sister Golden Hair.mp3
345 - The Guess Who - Share The Land.mp3
346 - Neil Young - Heart of Gold.mp3
347 - David Bowie - Fame.mp3
348 - The Beatles - A Hard Day's Night.mp3
349 - Hollies - Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress.mp3
350 - Heart - Barracuda.mp3
351 - Electric Light Orchestra - Livin' Thing.mp3
352 - Peter Gabriel - Solsbury Hill.mp3
353 - Styx - Blue Collar Man.mp3
354 - Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond.mp3
355 - ZZ Top - Sharp Dressed Man.mp3
356 - George Thorogood - Bad To The Bone.mp3
357 - U2 - New Year's Day.mp3
358 - Procol Harum - Conquistador.mp3
359 - Elton John - Funeral For A Friend-Love Lies Bleeding.mp3
360 - Todd Rundgren - Hello It's Me.mp3
361 - Steely Dan - Josie.mp3
362 - Cat Stevens - Wild World.mp3
363 - T-Rex - Bang A Gong Get It On.mp3
364 - The Who - Going Mobile.mp3
365 - Genesis - I Can't Dance.mp3
366 - The Boxtops - The Letter.mp3
367 - Paul McCartney - Another Day.mp3
368 - Moody Blues - The Story In Your Eyes.mp3
369 - Golden Earring - Radar Love.mp3
370 - The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up.mp3
371 - James Gang - Funk #49.mp3
372 - Alice Cooper - School's Out.mp3
373 - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - American Girl.mp3
374 - Jimi Hendrix - The Wind Cries Mary.mp3
375 - Nazareth - Hair Of The Dog.mp3
376 - ZZ Top - La Grange.mp3
377 - Santana - Oye Como Va.mp3
378 - Bad Company - Movin' On.mp3
379 - Van Halen - Running With The Devil.mp3
380 - Canned Heat - Going Up The Country.mp3
381 - Steely Dan - Dirty Work.mp3
382 - Rush - Tom Sawyer.mp3
383 - Steve Winwood - Arc Of A Diver.mp3
384 - Yes - Wonderous Stories.mp3
385 - Kinks - Celluloid Heroes.mp3
386 - Paul McCartney - Jet.mp3
387 - Edgar Winter Group - Frankenstein.mp3
388 - Bob Dylan - Positively 4th Street.mp3
389 - The Rolling Stones - Tumbling Dice.mp3
390 - Grand Funk Railroad - Bad Time.mp3
391 - Badfinger - Baby Blue.mp3
392 - The Who - You Better You Bet.mp3
393 - Queen - Fat Bottomed Girls.mp3
394 - The Beatles - Fat Bottom Girls.mp3
395 - Eric Clapton - I Shot the Sheriff.mp3
396 - The Doors - Waiting For The Sun.mp3
397 - Chicago - Make Me Smile.mp3
398 - The Guess Who - No Sugar Tonight.mp3
399 - Led Zeppelin - Good Times Bad Times.mp3
400 - Bruce Springsteen - Pink Cadillac.mp3
401 - The Who - Substitute.mp3
402 - Peter Frampton - Do You Feel Like We Do.mp3
403 - America - Horse With No Name.mp3
404 - Elton John - Madman Across The Water.mp3
405 - Neil Young - Keep on Rocking in the Free World.mp3
406 - Deep Purple - Highway Star.mp3
407 - Bad Company - Bad Company.mp3
408 - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Refugee.mp3
409 - The Doors - Twentieth Century Fox.mp3
410 - The Cars - My Best Friend's Girl.mp3
411 - Grateful Dead - Friend Of The Devil.mp3
412 - Cream - Badge.mp3
413 - Jethro Tull - Cross-Eyed Mary.mp3
414 - Animals - It's My Life.mp3
415 - Electric Light Orchestra - Strange Magic.mp3
416 - Blue Oyster Cult - Burnin' For You.mp3
417 - Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die.mp3
418 - Focus - Hocus Pocus.mp3
419 - Boston - Peace Of Mind.mp3
420 - Rick Derringer - Rock and Roll Hoochie Koo.mp3
421 - Thin Lizzy - The Boys Are Back In Town.mp3
422 - The Rolling Stones - Mother's Little Helper.mp3
423 - Van Halen - Dance The Night Away.mp3
424 - Peter Gabriel - In Your Eyes.mp3
425 - U2 - Sunday Bloody Sunday.mp3
426 - The Beatles - Norwegian Wood.mp3
427 - Rod Stewart - You Wear It Well.mp3
428 - Bob Dylan - Just Like A Woman.mp3
429 - Stephen Stills - Love the One You're With.mp3
430 - Led Zeppelin - Dy'er Ma'ker.mp3
431 - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - I Won't Back Down.mp3
432 - Van Morrison - Wild Night.mp3
433 - The Rolling Stones - Beast Of Burden.mp3
434 - Mott The Hoople - All The Young Dudes.mp3
435 - Queen - Tie Your Mother Down.mp3
436 - Dire Straits - So Far Away.mp3
437 - Steve Miller Band - The Joker.mp3
438 - The Beatles - Please Please Me.mp3
439 - Peter Frampton - Baby, I Love Your Way.mp3
440 - Bruce Springsteen - Spirit in the night.mp3
441 - Outlaws - Green Grass & High Tides.mp3
442 - Allman Brothers Band - Melissa.mp3
443 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Up Around The Bend.mp3
444 - Norman Greenbaum - Spirit in the Sky.mp3
445 - Led Zeppelin - All My Love.mp3
446 - Crosby, Stills & Nash - Wooden Ships.mp3
447 - The Beatles - Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds.mp3
448 - Jethro Tull - Living In The Past.mp3
449 - Deep Purple - Woman From Tokyo.mp3
450 - Foreigner - Cold As Ice.mp3
451 - Pete Townsend - Rough Boys.mp3
452 - Bob Dylan - Knockin on Heavens door.mp3
453 - The Beatles - Ballad Of John And Yoko.mp3
454 - The Eagles - Lyin' Eyes.mp3
455 - Foghat - Slow Ride.mp3
456 - The Doors - The End.mp3
457 - Pink Floyd - Speak to Me-Breathe in the Air.mp3
458 - Cheap Trick - Dream Police.mp3
459 - Eric Clapton - Layla (Unplugged).mp3
460 - ZZ Top - Gimme All Your Lovin'.mp3
461 - Bob Seger - Turn The Page.mp3
462 - Thunderclap Newman - Something In The Air.mp3
463 - Supertramp - Goodbye Stranger.mp3
464 - Moody Blues - The Voice.mp3
465 - Golden Earing - Twilight Zone.mp3
466 - John Fogerty - The Old Man Down The Road.mp3
467 - The Beatles - Glass Onion.mp3
468 - Jethro Tull - Bungle In The Jungle.mp3
469 - Grateful Dead - Sugar Magnolia.mp3
470 - The Rolling Stones - Waiting On A Friend.mp3
471 - Dr. John - Right Place Wrong Time.mp3
472 - Canned Heat - On The Road Again.mp3
473 - The Eagles - One Of These Nights.mp3
474 - Santana - Black Magic Woman.mp3
475 - Chambers Brothers - Time Has Come Today.mp3
476 - Crosby, Stills & Nash - Helplessly Hoping.mp3
477 - Neil Young - Southern Man.mp3
478 - Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Free Fallin'.mp3
479 - The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed.mp3
480 - Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer.mp3
481 - Sugarloaf - Green Eyed Lady.mp3
482 - Hollies - Bus Stop.mp3
483 - Eric Clapton - Forever Man.mp3
484 - Warren Zevon - Werewolves Of London.mp3
485 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Susie Q.mp3
486 - Sly And The Family Stone - Dance To The Music.mp3
487 - Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train.mp3
488 - Amboy Dukes - Journey To The Center Of The Mind.mp3
489 - David Bowie - Rebel Rebel.mp3
490 - Lovin' Spoonful - Summer In The City.mp3
491 - Robert Palmer - Addicted To Love.mp3
492 - Santana - Evil Ways.mp3
493 - Bob Seger - Old Time Rock & Roll.mp3
494 - The Beatles - I Should Have Known Better.mp3
495 - Humble Pie - Thirty Days In The Hole.mp3
496 - Kingsmen - Louie Louie.mp3
497 - Ten Years After - I'd Love To Change The World.mp3
498 - Joe Cocker - The Letter.mp3
499 - Bob Dylan - Rainy Day Women #12 & 35.mp3
500 - George Thorogood - Move It On Over.mp3
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:49:26
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > >
> > > > I hate to break it to you, but
> > > > there are lots of highly trained professional musicians out there who
> > > > also have a low opinion of Pink Floyd.
> > >
> > > And there are many think Hitler was good and Gandhi was bad... Your
> > > point being? Chill... we know you dont like Pink Floyd... no need to
> > > try proving that Pink Floyd are not good. Not many are going to agree
> > > with you.
> >
> > You must've missed the rest of the message -- the point is not to
> > "prove" Pink Floyd isn't good; of course that can't be done. The point
> > is that it ain't "trolling" in a music thread to make snide remarks
> > about them. Isn't that why you post all your lists -- to provoke a
> > variety of reactions, so you can then toss in your counter-reactions?
>
> lol... no. I just wanted to provoke a discussion. Instead this has
> become a "Pink Floyd sucks" vs "Pink Floyd rulez" discussion.
Not really -- I took some shots at them in passing, but the bulk of my
comments on the list you posted focused on its overall historical bias.
"John Doe" is the only one who decided to take the PF stuff personally
and make it the basis for one of his patented "trolling" accusations.
But fortunately, I don't think anyone has used "sucks" or "rulez" yet.
:)
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:42:13
From:
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Joe Ramirez wrote:
> >
> > > I hate to break it to you, but
> > > there are lots of highly trained professional musicians out there who
> > > also have a low opinion of Pink Floyd.
> >
> > And there are many think Hitler was good and Gandhi was bad... Your
> > point being? Chill... we know you dont like Pink Floyd... no need to
> > try proving that Pink Floyd are not good. Not many are going to agree
> > with you.
>
> You must've missed the rest of the message -- the point is not to
> "prove" Pink Floyd isn't good; of course that can't be done. The point
> is that it ain't "trolling" in a music thread to make snide remarks
> about them. Isn't that why you post all your lists -- to provoke a
> variety of reactions, so you can then toss in your counter-reactions?
lol... no. I just wanted to provoke a discussion. Instead this has
become a "Pink Floyd sucks" vs "Pink Floyd rulez" discussion. There are
many other artists on the list you might like. Why dont u discuss them,
than the artist you dont like?
>
> Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:25:48
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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zepflo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Joe Ramirez wrote:
>
> > I hate to break it to you, but
> > there are lots of highly trained professional musicians out there who
> > also have a low opinion of Pink Floyd.
>
> And there are many think Hitler was good and Gandhi was bad... Your
> point being? Chill... we know you dont like Pink Floyd... no need to
> try proving that Pink Floyd are not good. Not many are going to agree
> with you.
You must've missed the rest of the message -- the point is not to
"prove" Pink Floyd isn't good; of course that can't be done. The point
is that it ain't "trolling" in a music thread to make snide remarks
about them. Isn't that why you post all your lists -- to provoke a
variety of reactions, so you can then toss in your counter-reactions?
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:20:53
From:
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> I hate to break it to you, but
> there are lots of highly trained professional musicians out there who
> also have a low opinion of Pink Floyd.
And there are many think Hitler was good and Gandhi was bad... Your
point being? Chill... we know you dont like Pink Floyd... no need to
try proving that Pink Floyd are not good. Not many are going to agree
with you.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:00:47
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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John Doe wrote:
> "Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez netzero.com> wrote:
>
> > John Doe wrote:
> >> "Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez netzero.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
> >> >> Joe Ramirez wrote:
> >>
> >> ... Pink Floyd
> >>
> >> >> > They are talented musicians, but barely qualify as a rock
> >> >> > band.
> >>
> >> Whether you consider Pink Floyd to be a "rock band" is
> >> irrelevant. The issue is whether their music listed is considered
> >> to be rock.
> >>
> >> >> You havent heard the first two albums then.
> >> >>
> >> >> > More like EZ listening somber psychedelia for burnouts or
> >> >> > laser-show nappers.
> >>
> >> With that, you qualify as a troll.
>
> <Snipped more trolling>
>
> > And posting under the name "John Doe" doesn't do wonders for your
> > credibility.
>
> Using an alleged real name doesn't do anything for an insulting
> troll. I believe the vast majority of USENET users couldn't care
> less.
People who use fake names always believe, or claim to believe, that no
one minds. But they never really explain *why* it is essential for them
to use fake names.
And if you find harsh comments about Pink Floyd to be "trolling" -- in
an OT thread about music that someone else started -- you need to
develop a thicker skin. Seriously -- that's babyish.
> We go by familiarity with the poster under whatever handle.
>
> Posting through Google with a total of 250 posts doesn't do anything
> for your credibility either.
Huh?? Very weak on the research, I see. I've been on Usenet since 1994
and have posts in RST as far back as 1997. Always under the same name
-- none of this John Doe or Richard Roe crap. But my e-mail addresses
have changed from time to time, so the Google profile results for the
current one will be a small part of the total. And even that partial
total is shown by Google as 488, not 250. I'm probably one of the few
people in this group for whom you can retrieve *all* my posts over the
years just by searching on my name, since I don't use pseudonyms.
>
> >> >> TDSOTM is not easy listening.
> >> >
> >> > As effete rock goes, it's certainly among the most successful
> >> > examples. Even the all-reggae cover version of "Dark Side"
> >> > enjoyed a healthy run on the charts. So obviously there is a
> >> > fan base for this sort of stuff. But that doesn't make it
> >> > especially good --
> >>
> >> Everybody has an opinion.
> >> In my opinion, they probably deserve to have at least one in the
> >> top 500 all-time greatest rock songs list.
> >
> > The beauty of a 500-song list is that almost anything can be
> > accommodated, at least in small quantities.
>
> Maybe, if your experience with music equals your apparently very
> limited experience here on USENET.
Look, I know you're a sourpuss, so there's no point in my getting into
a pissing contest with you. Suffice it to say that your guess about my
experience with music is even further off the mark than your
misestimation of my Usenet experience. I hate to break it to you, but
there are lots of highly trained professional musicians out there who
also have a low opinion of Pink Floyd. And in terms of musical
education, training, and broad listening experience, I'm a heck of a
lot closer to them then I am to you.
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 19:12:39
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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David W wrote:
> "ZepFloYes" <zepfloyes@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1163890869.759425.112680@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> > their greatest song. I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> > most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> > songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> > 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> > epics. Overall a very good list.
> >
> > 001 - Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven.mp3
> > 002 - The Rolling Stones - Satisfaction.mp3
>
> Jumpin' Jack Flash is a better song. I've never understood why Satisfaction
> scores so high in these things.
exactly my thoughts. I always liked Jumpin Jack Flash more.
>
> David
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 19:06:38
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> Ted of Ted's Tennis wrote:
> > Somebody claiming to be Yama <tjama@NOSPAMpajuoulu.fi> wrote at Sun, 19
> > Nov 2006 02:24:49 GMT:
> >
> > > Notice that the list contains NOT ONE
> > > metal song.
> >
> > Does it contain any tennis songs?
>
> Surprisingly few of those out there, though Cream had one. Not one of
> their better efforts.
Oops -- I forgot the obvious: Elton John, "Philadelphia Freedom."
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 19:05:27
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Ted of Ted's Tennis wrote:
> Somebody claiming to be Yama <tjama@NOSPAMpajuoulu.fi> wrote at Sun, 19
> Nov 2006 02:24:49 GMT:
>
> > Notice that the list contains NOT ONE
> > metal song.
>
> Does it contain any tennis songs?
Surprisingly few of those out there, though Cream had one. Not one of
their better efforts.
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 18:55:39
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Manco wrote:
> Anolethron wrote:
> >> That might be true. But I have heard most of them are they are all
> >> good.
> >
> > Yes. Most are good. But the ordering makes no sense. I intended to
> > point out how "Time" is much better than most of the songs above it.
> > This guy just made a numbered list in MS Word and tossed songs in as
> > they came into his head.
>
> Yeah this ranking songs business is really stupid! At the very least group
> songs into the appropriate sub-sub genres and rank them.
Putting songs into sub genres is stupider.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 13:53:56
From: David W
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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"ZepFloYes" <zepfloyes@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1163890869.759425.112680@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> their greatest song. I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> epics. Overall a very good list.
>
> 001 - Led Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven.mp3
> 002 - The Rolling Stones - Satisfaction.mp3
Jumpin' Jack Flash is a better song. I've never understood why Satisfaction
scores so high in these things.
David
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 02:42:11
From: John Doe
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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"ZepFloYes" <zepfloyes@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Very good list...
The Boxer -- Simon and Garfunkel
More rocklike than the first half of Stairway to Heaven, played on
rock radio stations, and definitely in the top 500.
Zero Simon and Garfunkel and one Paul Simon song (Kodachrome?) in
the entire list? But seriously. Sound of Silence?
Flagpole Sitta -- Harvey Danger
Maybe not in the top 500, but definitely honorable mention.
:D
> They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as their
> greatest song. I agree completely with that. Beatles have the most
> - 37 songs!!!!!!
I'm burnt out on the Beatles.
"Imagine no John Lenin... it's easy if you try... la la la"
(just kidding)
> Led Zeppelin has 20 songs.
I think most listeners, including post baby boomers, would agree
that Led Zeppelin was a great rock band. Personally, I like Kashmir
best. Seems to me that the enchanting/odd sounding instrument
towards the end of the song is similar to the instrument towards the
end of The Boxer (where it is cleaner, sounds more like violin).
Led Zeppelin's lead singer is probably the only whiner I've ever
enjoyed listening to :)
> Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM.
I would agree with the troll that the list is a little heavy on Pink
Floyd.
> Yes has only 4
Yes is another good example of songs that drop out of the "thump
thump thump" rock mode.
I like classical mostly these days. Before, some of the music
I enjoyed most, including Yes and Electric Light Orchestra (ELO),
seems to have been along the same line as classical (ELO... duh).
Classical is cool, for one reason because it has no generation
barriers. Your music doesn't become golden oldies. You might be
surprised how enjoyable it can be, especially if you like
instrumentals. Might take a lot of getting used to, but it's not
like easy listening or Muzak.
> but then most of their songs are epics and this
> list does have any epics. Overall a very good list.
I don't think it qualifies as a good list if it necessarily excludes
songs like The Boxer, especially since more than half of the number
one song (Stairway to Heaven) is less like rock than The Boxer.
Have fun.
(see the prior post for the list)
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 18:32:14
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Yama wrote:
> ZepFloYes <zepfloyes@yahoo.com> wrote:
> : Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> : their greatest song. I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> : most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> : songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> : 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> : epics. Overall a very good list.
>
> The list's completely laughable, apparently made by some nostalgists who
> think that it's still 1969. Notice that the list contains NOT ONE
> metal song. Bands like Nirvana and GnR are also completely absent.
I am glad Nirvana is absent. Their best song was upstaged by Weird Al's
version (Smells Like Nirvana...LOL) But yes, they should have had at
least had some GNR songs like Sweet Child of Mine, November Rain etc.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 02:24:49
From: Yama
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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ZepFloYes <zepfloyes@yahoo.com > wrote:
: Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
: their greatest song. I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
: most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
: songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
: 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
: epics. Overall a very good list.
The list's completely laughable, apparently made by some nostalgists who
think that it's still 1969. Notice that the list contains NOT ONE
metal song. Bands like Nirvana and GnR are also completely absent.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 03:01:41
From: Ted of Ted's Tennis
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Somebody claiming to be Yama <tjama@NOSPAMpajuoulu.fi > wrote at Sun, 19
Nov 2006 02:24:49 GMT:
> Notice that the list contains NOT ONE
> metal song.
Does it contain any tennis songs?
--
Ted Schuerzinger <http://tedstennis.tripod.com/index.html >
Are you children so hung up on finally achieving puberty that you
can't ever discuss tennis in grown-up language?
pltrgyst, in <frrf42h0va9he9fju2m2modoeovnok3ncr@4ax.com >
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 18:30:06
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
|
Joe Ramirez wrote:
> Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
> > pedrodias@snip.net wrote:
> > > Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually, I had no idea Google has posting quotas -- I've never run
> > > > into them myself. :) But if I did, I guess I'd have to stop for the
> > > > day, since I only post using my real name.
> > >
> > > I've encountered them around Slam time. Otherwise no real issue.
> > >
> > > And now I'm curious: what songs would *you* put on the all-time-best
> > > list, since the one above seems entirely not to your taste?
> >
> > >From my favorite three bands, these songs should be part of top 1000
> > list if it is made....
>
> [deleted]
>
> If 10% of your list is going to be the output of just three bands, then
> you should call it the "My Favorite Songs" list. That's all you have to
> do. Avoid any reference to "all-time best" or "top 1,000" and no one,
> including me, should have any complaints.
Okay make it top 5000 ;-)
>
> Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 18:13:41
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
> pedrodias@snip.net wrote:
> > Joe Ramirez wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, I had no idea Google has posting quotas -- I've never run
> > > into them myself. :) But if I did, I guess I'd have to stop for the
> > > day, since I only post using my real name.
> >
> > I've encountered them around Slam time. Otherwise no real issue.
> >
> > And now I'm curious: what songs would *you* put on the all-time-best
> > list, since the one above seems entirely not to your taste?
>
> >From my favorite three bands, these songs should be part of top 1000
> list if it is made....
[deleted]
If 10% of your list is going to be the output of just three bands, then
you should call it the "My Favorite Songs" list. That's all you have to
do. Avoid any reference to "all-time best" or "top 1,000" and no one,
including me, should have any complaints.
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 03:30:52
From: John Doe
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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"Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez netzero.com > wrote:
> and no one, including me, should have any complaints.
Get off of the corn cob and you will have fewer complaints.
It's a list of songs. Lighten up.
>
> Joe Ramirez
>
>
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 18:06:07
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
|
John Doe wrote:
> "Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez netzero.com> wrote:
>
> > Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
> >> Joe Ramirez wrote:
>
> ... Pink Floyd
>
> >> > They are talented musicians, but barely qualify as a rock band.
>
> Whether you consider Pink Floyd to be a "rock band" is irrelevant.
> The issue is whether their music listed is considered to be rock.
>
> >> You havent heard the first two albums then.
> >>
> >> > More like EZ listening somber psychedelia for burnouts or
> >> > laser-show nappers.
>
> With that, you qualify as a troll.
Er, aren't you the person who spends most of his time here posting
pompous "off topic" complaints about posts you don't like? You clearly
have a tendency to spot trolls under every paragraph. And posting under
the name "John Doe" doesn't do wonders for your credibility.
> >> TDSOTM is not easy listening.
> >
> > As effete rock goes, it's certainly among the most successful
> > examples. Even the all-reggae cover version of "Dark Side" enjoyed
> > a healthy run on the charts. So obviously there is a fan base for
> > this sort of stuff. But that doesn't make it especially good --
>
> Everybody has an opinion.
> In my opinion, they probably deserve to have at least one in the top
> 500 all-time greatest rock songs list.
The beauty of a 500-song list is that almost anything can be
accommodated, at least in small quantities.
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 03:28:04
From: John Doe
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
|
"Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez netzero.com > wrote:
> John Doe wrote:
>> "Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez netzero.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
>> >> Joe Ramirez wrote:
>>
>> ... Pink Floyd
>>
>> >> > They are talented musicians, but barely qualify as a rock
>> >> > band.
>>
>> Whether you consider Pink Floyd to be a "rock band" is
>> irrelevant. The issue is whether their music listed is considered
>> to be rock.
>>
>> >> You havent heard the first two albums then.
>> >>
>> >> > More like EZ listening somber psychedelia for burnouts or
>> >> > laser-show nappers.
>>
>> With that, you qualify as a troll.
<Snipped more trolling >
> And posting under the name "John Doe" doesn't do wonders for your
> credibility.
Using an alleged real name doesn't do anything for an insulting
troll. I believe the vast majority of USENET users couldn't care
less. We go by familiarity with the poster under whatever handle.
Posting through Google with a total of 250 posts doesn't do anything
for your credibility either.
>> >> TDSOTM is not easy listening.
>> >
>> > As effete rock goes, it's certainly among the most successful
>> > examples. Even the all-reggae cover version of "Dark Side"
>> > enjoyed a healthy run on the charts. So obviously there is a
>> > fan base for this sort of stuff. But that doesn't make it
>> > especially good --
>>
>> Everybody has an opinion.
>> In my opinion, they probably deserve to have at least one in the
>> top 500 all-time greatest rock songs list.
>
> The beauty of a 500-song list is that almost anything can be
> accommodated, at least in small quantities.
Maybe, if your experience with music equals your apparently very
limited experience here on USENET.
>
> Joe Ramirez
>
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 18:00:59
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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pedrodias@snip.net wrote:
> Joe Ramirez wrote:
>
> > Actually, I had no idea Google has posting quotas -- I've never run
> > into them myself. :) But if I did, I guess I'd have to stop for the
> > day, since I only post using my real name.
>
> I've encountered them around Slam time. Otherwise no real issue.
>
> And now I'm curious: what songs would *you* put on the all-time-best
> list, since the one above seems entirely not to your taste?
>From my favorite three bands, these songs should be part of top 1000
list if it is made....
Led Zeppelin (33 songs)
Communication Breakdown
Babe I am gonna Leave You Now
Dazed and Confused
Your Time is Gonna Come
How many More Times
Whole Lotta Love
What is What Should Never Be
Livin Loving Maid
Ramble On
Immigrant Song
Since I have been Loving You
Gallows Pole
Black Dog
Rock and Roll
Stairway To Heaven
Going to California
When the Levee Breaks
The Song Remains The Same
The Rain Song
Over the Hills and Far Away
No Quarter
The Ocean
In my time of Dying
Kashmir
In the Light
Down by the Seaside
Ten Years Gone
Achilles Last Stand
Nobody's Fault But Mine
Fool in the Rain
Poor Tom
Travelling Riverside Blues
Hey Hey What Can I do
Pink Floyd (33 songs)
Arnold Layne
See Emily Play
Apples and Oranges
Paintbox
Astronomy Domine
Lucifer Sam
Matilda Mother
Flaming
Pow R Toc H
Interstellar Overdrive
Let there Be Light
Remember a Day
Corporal Clegg
See Saw
Jugband Blues
Summer '68
Echoes
Speak to Me/Breathe
Time
Money
Us And Them
Shine on you crazy Diamond (1-6)
Have A Cigar
Wish You were Here
Pigs (3 different ones)
In the Flesh
Another Brick in the wall - 1/Happiest Days of our Lives/Another Brick
in the Wall - 2
Young Lust
Hey You
Comfortably Numb
Run like Hell
Wearing the Inside Out
Take it Back
Yes (33 songs)
Beyond and Before
Looking Around
Every little thing
Harold Land
Survival
No Opportunity Necessary, No Experience Needed
Sweet Dreams
The Prophet
Time and a Word
Yours is No Disgrace
Starship Trooper
I have Seen All Good People
Perpetual Change
Roundabout
Long Distance Turnaround
Heart of the Sunrise
Close to the Edge
And You and I
Siberian Khatru
Ritual
Gates of Delerium
To be Over
Turn of the Century
Wonderous Stories
Machine Messiah
Owner of the Lonely Heart
Changes
Love will find a Way
Lift me Up
It will be a Good Day
Magnificiation
Can you Imagine
In the Presence Of
.... phew...
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 17:41:54
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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pedrodias@snip.net wrote:
> Joe Ramirez wrote:
>
> > Actually, I had no idea Google has posting quotas -- I've never run
> > into them myself. :) But if I did, I guess I'd have to stop for the
> > day, since I only post using my real name.
>
> I've encountered them around Slam time. Otherwise no real issue.
>
> And now I'm curious: what songs would *you* put on the all-time-best
> list, since the one above seems entirely not to your taste?
Well, no list compiled by one person will be *entirely* to someone
else's taste, but that doesn't mean I find the posted compilation
worthless. In fact, the majority of the songs on it are quite good, and
many truly are great. My previous messages have set forth what I
believe are its major flaws:
1. Overwhelming historical bias toward the 8-track tape era. By far the
most severe deficiency.
2. Nonsensical imposition of hierarchy. Everyone else seems to
recognize this as well.
3. A scattering of weak songs that should be forgotten rather than
celebrated. This criticism is more a matter of personal taste than the
others, and is offered more for amusement than for any conclusive
force.
I have no problem with "Stairway to Heaven" turning up on a list like
this. I don't dispute that it's a classic. But when it's the default
no. 1, then we know we're dealing with nothing more than a classic rock
playlist sensibility, and that makes the whole project suspect,
notwithstanding the individual excellence of many of the selections.
As to my recommendations, well, much as I sometimes enjoy passing the
time in RST, I don't really have the leisure available to prepare my
own list of 500 songs for this group, or even 50 for that matter. (In
fact, shorter lists can be tougher to prepare, since more consideration
must be given to what's omitted.) But consider this: the list here
appears to include virtually no music, other than a few tracks by U2,
by artists that first emerged in the last 30 years or so. That is just
absurd. For example, there's nothing by any of the great CBGB bands, or
from the UK punks or postpunks -- whole swaths of rock's history have
been ignored. That's terrible.
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 17:24:10
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Anolethron wrote:
> > That might be true. But I have heard most of them are they are all good.
> >
>
> Yes. Most are good. But the ordering makes no sense. I intended to point out
> how "Time" is much better than most of the songs above it. This guy just
> made a numbered list in MS Word and tossed songs in as they came into his
> head.
Yeah Time is freaking awesome.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:43:28
From:
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> Actually, I had no idea Google has posting quotas -- I've never run
> into them myself. :) But if I did, I guess I'd have to stop for the
> day, since I only post using my real name.
I've encountered them around Slam time. Otherwise no real issue.
And now I'm curious: what songs would *you* put on the all-time-best
list, since the one above seems entirely not to your taste?
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:32:03
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
> Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > By the way, why did you switch names in the course of this discussion?
> > First it's "Zepfloyes" and then "Get a Clue." Random selections from
> > the personality quiver?
>
> Google posting limits. Zepfloyes quota for the day got over ;-)
> Chill... no need to get agressive here... just a discussion going on.
Don't worry, I wasn't being aggressive, just curious. Most people here
recognize your distinct online IDs, so no deception is involved.
Actually, I had no idea Google has posting quotas -- I've never run
into them myself. :) But if I did, I guess I'd have to stop for the
day, since I only post using my real name.
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:28:00
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> Anolethron wrote:
> > > 160 - Pink Floyd - Time.mp3
> >
> > Are you kiddin' me? It looks like a RANDOM list of good songs.
>
> A random list of good songs with a few songs by the effete Pink Floyd
> tossed in. :)
>
> Seriously, though, you are certainly right. No one can accurately rank
> 500 songs even for himself, let alone for a broader audience. You can
> probably pick any two songs on the list a hundred or two places apart
> and be unable to justify why one should be ranked ahead of the other.
> The hierarchical aspect of the set is just silliness. The actual song
> selections can be argued about, I suppose, if one wishes to spend the
> time required.
I guess the list would have made more sense if it is unordered.
>
> Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:26:32
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Anolethron wrote:
> > 160 - Pink Floyd - Time.mp3
>
> Are you kiddin' me? It looks like a RANDOM list of good songs.
That might be true. But I have heard most of them are they are all good.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 01:39:44
From: Anolethron
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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> That might be true. But I have heard most of them are they are all good.
>
Yes. Most are good. But the ordering makes no sense. I intended to point out
how "Time" is much better than most of the songs above it. This guy just
made a numbered list in MS Word and tossed songs in as they came into his
head.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 02:15:47
From: Manco
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Anolethron wrote:
>> That might be true. But I have heard most of them are they are all
>> good.
>
> Yes. Most are good. But the ordering makes no sense. I intended to
> point out how "Time" is much better than most of the songs above it.
> This guy just made a numbered list in MS Word and tossed songs in as
> they came into his head.
Yeah this ranking songs business is really stupid! At the very least group
songs into the appropriate sub-sub genres and rank them. But ranking songs
across genres, it's like saying that a Beethoven sonata is better/worse then
a Mozart opera. Pure silliness.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:25:42
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
> > Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > > zepfloyes@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > > > > ZepFloYes wrote:
> > > > > > Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> > > > > > their greatest song.
> > > > >
> > > > > "They"? Who are they?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.muchmusic.net/bacobens_rock_top_500_5240
> > >
> > > That's not much help. Who or what is "Bacobens"? Does he have a mullet?
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> > > > > > most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> > > > > > songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> > > > > > 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> > > > > > epics. Overall a very good list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Overall a very bad list. Tremendous, dentures-dropping-in-the-oatmeal
> > > > > bias in favor of material from the 60s and 70s.
> > >
> > > > The best decades for proper rock music.
> > >
> > > By "proper," do you mean old?
> >
> > Nope... riff based anthemic rock.
>
> An exceedingly narrow conception of what constitutes good music. Don't
> let your taste imprison you.
>
> > 80s had either cheesy new wave or
> > hair metal. Thrash metal was fairly underground and didnt produce that
> > many great songs/bands. 90s was full of mopy grunge/alternative rock
> > which barely qualifies as good music... forget good rock music. 00s is
> > dominated by hip hop.
>
> Your view of the 1980s is myopic. The mainstream commercial side of the
> 80s was musically unimportant, but that's hardly all there was to the
> decade.
Then what else was there? So indie alternative bands which have a huge
cult following but hardly made anything interesting?
Tell me some the bands you think were from the 80s and were excellent?
>Aside from that, you're basically repeating yourself here --
> all you like is "riff based anthemic rock." Fine, but can you live in
> the 1960s and 70s forever? Do you want to become your own grandparents?
I like old as well as new music. My only problem is the new music is
highly derivative and boring.
>
>
> > >Those decades certainly produced a lot of
> > > great music, but to stop paying attention afterward reflects only
> > > personal exhaustion, not a decline in creativity in the rest of the
> > > world. But it is certainly true that the 70s were the best decade for
> > > 70s rock.
> > >
> > > > > The effete Pink Floyd
> > > > > at no. 7 (!!) with one of their most effete songs is ample evidence of
> > > > > derangement.
> > > >
> > > > Effete???????????????? Have you really heard Pink Floyd?
> > >
> > > They are talented musicians, but barely qualify as a rock band.
> >
> > You havent heard the first two albums then.
> >
> > > More
> > > like EZ listening somber psychedelia for burnouts or laser-show
> > > nappers.
> >
> > TDSOTM is not easy listening.
>
> As effete rock goes, it's certainly among the most successful examples.
> Even the all-reggae cover version of "Dark Side" enjoyed a healthy run
> on the charts. So obviously there is a fan base for this sort of stuff.
> But that doesn't make it especially good -- even by your own
> definition, since it fails as "riff based anthemic rock."
Time and Money have some great riffs. Time probably has the best
Gilmour solo ever. TDSOTM rocks! You need to listen to it again.
>
> > >I will grant you that "Money" is a decent track and "How can
> > > you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?" is a funny line.
> > >
> > > > > The Doors at no. 6?! I played an arrangement of "Light My
> > > > > Fire" in a marching band while kneeling on the football field, and it
> > > > > was more interesting than the original.
> > > >
> > > > "Light My Fire" is a great song. What are you smoking?
> > >
> > > The Doors had two great organ players. Unfortunately, only one of them
> > > was an instrumentalist.
> >
> > You are biased against them. They produced bunch of crap songs but also
> > had some great songs.
>
> Some good songs, yes. Some great songs, probably not. And "Light My
> Fire" should be nowhere, nowhere near the top 10 of greatest rock songs
> of all time. "Bacobens" probably counts only music that's available on
> 8-track tapes.
you are biased against The Doors... thats all. By the way my favorite
Doors song is "The End" and "Touch Me".
>
> > > > > The Grateful Dead -- the
> > > > > epitome of lackadaisical noninspiration -- at no. 18?!! I can pull out
> > > > > two CDs at random and find 18 songs better than "Truckin'."
> > > >
> > > > I hate The Grateful Dead. But I guess I like Truckin and Sugar
> > > > Magnolia. They have only 5 songs of theirs in the top 500. So no harm
> > > > done! ;-)
> > >
> > > Five is probably four too many. I'll concede one spot just so the
> > > leftover Deadheads don't show up on my front lawn.
> >
> > I dont care about the Dead. So no problem with that.
>
> We'll start with that point of lucidity and build from it. :)
>
> By the way, why did you switch names in the course of this discussion?
> First it's "Zepfloyes" and then "Get a Clue." Random selections from
> the personality quiver?
Google posting limits. Zepfloyes quota for the day got over ;-)
Chill... no need to get agressive here... just a discussion going on.
>
> Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:20:03
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Anolethron wrote:
> > 160 - Pink Floyd - Time.mp3
>
> Are you kiddin' me? It looks like a RANDOM list of good songs.
A random list of good songs with a few songs by the effete Pink Floyd
tossed in. :)
Seriously, though, you are certainly right. No one can accurately rank
500 songs even for himself, let alone for a broader audience. You can
probably pick any two songs on the list a hundred or two places apart
and be unable to justify why one should be ranked ahead of the other.
The hierarchical aspect of the set is just silliness. The actual song
selections can be argued about, I suppose, if one wishes to spend the
time required.
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 01:13:54
From: Anolethron
Subject: Re: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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> 160 - Pink Floyd - Time.mp3
Are you kiddin' me? It looks like a RANDOM list of good songs.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:07:06
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
> Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > zepfloyes@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > > > ZepFloYes wrote:
> > > > > Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> > > > > their greatest song.
> > > >
> > > > "They"? Who are they?
> > >
> > > http://www.muchmusic.net/bacobens_rock_top_500_5240
> >
> > That's not much help. Who or what is "Bacobens"? Does he have a mullet?
> >
> >
> > > > > I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> > > > > most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> > > > > songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> > > > > 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> > > > > epics. Overall a very good list.
> > > >
> > > > Overall a very bad list. Tremendous, dentures-dropping-in-the-oatmeal
> > > > bias in favor of material from the 60s and 70s.
> >
> > > The best decades for proper rock music.
> >
> > By "proper," do you mean old?
>
> Nope... riff based anthemic rock.
An exceedingly narrow conception of what constitutes good music. Don't
let your taste imprison you.
> 80s had either cheesy new wave or
> hair metal. Thrash metal was fairly underground and didnt produce that
> many great songs/bands. 90s was full of mopy grunge/alternative rock
> which barely qualifies as good music... forget good rock music. 00s is
> dominated by hip hop.
Your view of the 1980s is myopic. The mainstream commercial side of the
80s was musically unimportant, but that's hardly all there was to the
decade. Aside from that, you're basically repeating yourself here --
all you like is "riff based anthemic rock." Fine, but can you live in
the 1960s and 70s forever? Do you want to become your own grandparents?
> >Those decades certainly produced a lot of
> > great music, but to stop paying attention afterward reflects only
> > personal exhaustion, not a decline in creativity in the rest of the
> > world. But it is certainly true that the 70s were the best decade for
> > 70s rock.
> >
> > > > The effete Pink Floyd
> > > > at no. 7 (!!) with one of their most effete songs is ample evidence of
> > > > derangement.
> > >
> > > Effete???????????????? Have you really heard Pink Floyd?
> >
> > They are talented musicians, but barely qualify as a rock band.
>
> You havent heard the first two albums then.
>
> > More
> > like EZ listening somber psychedelia for burnouts or laser-show
> > nappers.
>
> TDSOTM is not easy listening.
As effete rock goes, it's certainly among the most successful examples.
Even the all-reggae cover version of "Dark Side" enjoyed a healthy run
on the charts. So obviously there is a fan base for this sort of stuff.
But that doesn't make it especially good -- even by your own
definition, since it fails as "riff based anthemic rock."
> >I will grant you that "Money" is a decent track and "How can
> > you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?" is a funny line.
> >
> > > > The Doors at no. 6?! I played an arrangement of "Light My
> > > > Fire" in a marching band while kneeling on the football field, and it
> > > > was more interesting than the original.
> > >
> > > "Light My Fire" is a great song. What are you smoking?
> >
> > The Doors had two great organ players. Unfortunately, only one of them
> > was an instrumentalist.
>
> You are biased against them. They produced bunch of crap songs but also
> had some great songs.
Some good songs, yes. Some great songs, probably not. And "Light My
Fire" should be nowhere, nowhere near the top 10 of greatest rock songs
of all time. "Bacobens" probably counts only music that's available on
8-track tapes.
> > > > The Grateful Dead -- the
> > > > epitome of lackadaisical noninspiration -- at no. 18?!! I can pull out
> > > > two CDs at random and find 18 songs better than "Truckin'."
> > >
> > > I hate The Grateful Dead. But I guess I like Truckin and Sugar
> > > Magnolia. They have only 5 songs of theirs in the top 500. So no harm
> > > done! ;-)
> >
> > Five is probably four too many. I'll concede one spot just so the
> > leftover Deadheads don't show up on my front lawn.
>
> I dont care about the Dead. So no problem with that.
We'll start with that point of lucidity and build from it. :)
By the way, why did you switch names in the course of this discussion?
First it's "Zepfloyes" and then "Get a Clue." Random selections from
the personality quiver?
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 01:56:42
From: John Doe
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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"Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez netzero.com > wrote:
> Get a Clue Idiotas wrote:
>> Joe Ramirez wrote:
... Pink Floyd
>> > They are talented musicians, but barely qualify as a rock band.
Whether you consider Pink Floyd to be a "rock band" is irrelevant.
The issue is whether their music listed is considered to be rock.
>> You havent heard the first two albums then.
>>
>> > More like EZ listening somber psychedelia for burnouts or
>> > laser-show nappers.
With that, you qualify as a troll.
>> TDSOTM is not easy listening.
>
> As effete rock goes, it's certainly among the most successful
> examples. Even the all-reggae cover version of "Dark Side" enjoyed
> a healthy run on the charts. So obviously there is a fan base for
> this sort of stuff. But that doesn't make it especially good --
Everybody has an opinion.
In my opinion, they probably deserve to have at least one in the top
500 all-time greatest rock songs list.
Personally, I liked Welcome to the Machine.
"Come in here dear boy have a cigar, you're going to go far...
fly high, you're never going to die, you're going to make it if you
try they're going to love you.
I've always had a deep respect and they mean that most sincerely,
the band is just fantastic, that is really what I think
oh and by the way, which one's Pink?
And did we tell you the name of the game, boy, we call it riding the
gravy train."
>
>
>
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 15:48:02
From: Get a Clue Idiotas
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> zepfloyes@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > > ZepFloYes wrote:
> > > > Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> > > > their greatest song.
> > >
> > > "They"? Who are they?
> >
> > http://www.muchmusic.net/bacobens_rock_top_500_5240
>
> That's not much help. Who or what is "Bacobens"? Does he have a mullet?
>
>
> > > > I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> > > > most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> > > > songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> > > > 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> > > > epics. Overall a very good list.
> > >
> > > Overall a very bad list. Tremendous, dentures-dropping-in-the-oatmeal
> > > bias in favor of material from the 60s and 70s.
>
> > The best decades for proper rock music.
>
> By "proper," do you mean old?
Nope... riff based anthemic rock. 80s had either cheesy new wave or
hair metal. Thrash metal was fairly underground and didnt produce that
many great songs/bands. 90s was full of mopy grunge/alternative rock
which barely qualifies as good music... forget good rock music. 00s is
dominated by hip hop.
>Those decades certainly produced a lot of
> great music, but to stop paying attention afterward reflects only
> personal exhaustion, not a decline in creativity in the rest of the
> world. But it is certainly true that the 70s were the best decade for
> 70s rock.
>
> > > The effete Pink Floyd
> > > at no. 7 (!!) with one of their most effete songs is ample evidence of
> > > derangement.
> >
> > Effete???????????????? Have you really heard Pink Floyd?
>
> They are talented musicians, but barely qualify as a rock band.
You havent heard the first two albums then.
> More
> like EZ listening somber psychedelia for burnouts or laser-show
> nappers.
TDSOTM is not easy listening.
>I will grant you that "Money" is a decent track and "How can
> you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?" is a funny line.
>
> > > The Doors at no. 6?! I played an arrangement of "Light My
> > > Fire" in a marching band while kneeling on the football field, and it
> > > was more interesting than the original.
> >
> > "Light My Fire" is a great song. What are you smoking?
>
> The Doors had two great organ players. Unfortunately, only one of them
> was an instrumentalist.
You are biased against them. They produced bunch of crap songs but also
had some great songs.
>
> > > The Grateful Dead -- the
> > > epitome of lackadaisical noninspiration -- at no. 18?!! I can pull out
> > > two CDs at random and find 18 songs better than "Truckin'."
> >
> > I hate The Grateful Dead. But I guess I like Truckin and Sugar
> > Magnolia. They have only 5 songs of theirs in the top 500. So no harm
> > done! ;-)
>
> Five is probably four too many. I'll concede one spot just so the
> leftover Deadheads don't show up on my front lawn.
I dont care about the Dead. So no problem with that.
>
> Joe Ramirez
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 10:24:34
From: Yama
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Get a Clue Idiotas <clueidiota@yahoo.com > wrote:
: Nope... riff based anthemic rock. 80s had either cheesy new wave or
: hair metal. Thrash metal was fairly underground and didnt produce that
: many great songs/bands.
So cheesy '80s rock is bad, but cheesy '60s rock is good? The extent to
which the old rock groups have been deified is amusing - sure, Beatles
were talented but they were no less (more, if anything) commercial
money making machine than, say, Bon Jovi.
There are several thrash bands which have sold tens of millions of
records. Is that "underground"?
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 15:38:03
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
|
zepfloyes@yahoo.com wrote:
> Joe Ramirez wrote:
> > ZepFloYes wrote:
> > > Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> > > their greatest song.
> >
> > "They"? Who are they?
>
> http://www.muchmusic.net/bacobens_rock_top_500_5240
That's not much help. Who or what is "Bacobens"? Does he have a mullet?
> > > I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> > > most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> > > songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> > > 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> > > epics. Overall a very good list.
> >
> > Overall a very bad list. Tremendous, dentures-dropping-in-the-oatmeal
> > bias in favor of material from the 60s and 70s.
> The best decades for proper rock music.
By "proper," do you mean old? Those decades certainly produced a lot of
great music, but to stop paying attention afterward reflects only
personal exhaustion, not a decline in creativity in the rest of the
world. But it is certainly true that the 70s were the best decade for
70s rock.
> > The effete Pink Floyd
> > at no. 7 (!!) with one of their most effete songs is ample evidence of
> > derangement.
>
> Effete???????????????? Have you really heard Pink Floyd?
They are talented musicians, but barely qualify as a rock band. More
like EZ listening somber psychedelia for burnouts or laser-show
nappers. I will grant you that "Money" is a decent track and "How can
you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?" is a funny line.
> > The Doors at no. 6?! I played an arrangement of "Light My
> > Fire" in a marching band while kneeling on the football field, and it
> > was more interesting than the original.
>
> "Light My Fire" is a great song. What are you smoking?
The Doors had two great organ players. Unfortunately, only one of them
was an instrumentalist.
> > The Grateful Dead -- the
> > epitome of lackadaisical noninspiration -- at no. 18?!! I can pull out
> > two CDs at random and find 18 songs better than "Truckin'."
>
> I hate The Grateful Dead. But I guess I like Truckin and Sugar
> Magnolia. They have only 5 songs of theirs in the top 500. So no harm
> done! ;-)
Five is probably four too many. I'll concede one spot just so the
leftover Deadheads don't show up on my front lawn.
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 15:16:48
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Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> ZepFloYes wrote:
> > Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> > their greatest song.
>
> "They"? Who are they?
http://www.muchmusic.net/bacobens_rock_top_500_5240
>
> > I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> > most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> > songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> > 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> > epics. Overall a very good list.
>
> Overall a very bad list. Tremendous, dentures-dropping-in-the-oatmeal
> bias in favor of material from the 60s and 70s.
The best decades for proper rock music.
> The effete Pink Floyd
> at no. 7 (!!) with one of their most effete songs is ample evidence of
> derangement.
Effete???????????????? Have you really heard Pink Floyd?
> The Doors at no. 6?! I played an arrangement of "Light My
> Fire" in a marching band while kneeling on the football field, and it
> was more interesting than the original.
"Light My Fire" is a great song. What are you smoking?
> The Grateful Dead -- the
> epitome of lackadaisical noninspiration -- at no. 18?!! I can pull out
> two CDs at random and find 18 songs better than "Truckin'."
I hate The Grateful Dead. But I guess I like Truckin and Sugar
Magnolia. They have only 5 songs of theirs in the top 500. So no harm
done! ;-)
>
> Joe Ramirez
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 15:12:10
From: Joe Ramirez
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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ZepFloYes wrote:
> Very good list... They wisely chose The Beatles - A Day in The Life as
> their greatest song.
"They"? Who are they?
> I agree completely with that. Beatles have the
> most - 37 songs!!!!!! Rolling Stones have 22 songs. Led Zeppelin has 20
> songs. Pink Floyd has 12 songs, most of them from TDSOTM. Yes has only
> 4 but then most of their songs are epics and this list does have any
> epics. Overall a very good list.
Overall a very bad list. Tremendous, dentures-dropping-in-the-oatmeal
bias in favor of material from the 60s and 70s. The effete Pink Floyd
at no. 7 (!!) with one of their most effete songs is ample evidence of
derangement. The Doors at no. 6?! I played an arrangement of "Light My
Fire" in a marching band while kneeling on the football field, and it
was more interesting than the original. The Grateful Dead -- the
epitome of lackadaisical noninspiration -- at no. 18?!! I can pull out
two CDs at random and find 18 songs better than "Truckin'."
Joe Ramirez
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 00:24:06
From: John Doe
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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"Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez@netzero.com > wrote:
...
> The Grateful Dead -- at no. 18?!!
> "Truckin'."
That's a good catch IMO, hardly number 18 of all time.
>
> Joe Ramirez
>
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 07:19:50
From:
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Yama wrote:
> Get a Clue Idiotas <clueidiota@yahoo.com> wrote:
> : Nope... riff based anthemic rock. 80s had either cheesy new wave or
> : hair metal. Thrash metal was fairly underground and didnt produce that
> : many great songs/bands.
>
> So cheesy '80s rock is bad, but cheesy '60s rock is good? The extent to
> which the old rock groups have been deified is amusing - sure, Beatles
> were talented but they were no less (more, if anything) commercial
> money making machine than, say, Bon Jovi.
So I guess Bon Jovi is a better band than Beatles? Look at their
creativity, influence, the amount of respect they have among rock
fans...LOL
Being commercial is not being equal to being cheesy. Shamelessly making
derivative umimaginative music and using your hair to sell music is
cheesy.
>
> There are several thrash bands which have sold tens of millions of
> records. Is that "underground"?
Before Metallice broke through most thrash metal bands were underground.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 23:37:32
From: Yama
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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zepfloyes@yahoo.com wrote:
: Yama wrote:
: > So cheesy '80s rock is bad, but cheesy '60s rock is good? The extent to
: > which the old rock groups have been deified is amusing - sure, Beatles
: > were talented but they were no less (more, if anything) commercial
: > money making machine than, say, Bon Jovi.
: So I guess Bon Jovi is a better band than Beatles?
Never said so - but if you include cheesy and commercial '60s bands,
why not include cheesy & commercial '80s bands? It's not like Bon Jovi
is musically less complex than Beatles or Stones.
: Being commercial is not being equal to being cheesy. Shamelessly making
: derivative umimaginative music and using your hair to sell music is
: cheesy.
So why Rolling Stones are on the list...?
But okay, so Bon Jovi is bad & unoriginal. But where's Judas Priest? Iron Maiden?
Scorpions? Faith No More? I guess we should be grateful that there's *one* Black
Sabbath song - which, of course, is not anywhere close to being Black Sabbath's
best song, making one wonder whether it's actually only Sabbath song the compiler
of the list has ever heard?
: > There are several thrash bands which have sold tens of millions of
: > records. Is that "underground"?
: Before Metallice broke through most thrash metal bands were underground.
Well, if you define "underground" as not being on MTV, yeah. But Metallica
is hardly the only thrash act worth noting - Megadeth has sold like 20 million
records, Slayer pretty close that too, even Anthrax has one US platinum album.
How many albums Procol Harum has sold?
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 06:55:44
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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Joe Ramirez wrote:
> And if you find harsh comments about Pink Floyd to be "trolling" -- in
> an OT thread about music that someone else started -- you need to
> develop a thicker skin. Seriously -- that's babyish.
Just ignore "John Doe" - he's a self-important old fool who may well be
suffering from OCD. Which explains why he can't stand seeing an OT or a
troll post without responding to it and declaring it as such. Yes,
terming harsh comments about PF as "trolling" is evidence that he has
stooped lower than ever in his quest to be appointed as the deputy
monkey of the Usenet policer officers association. The reason he sees
your 200 posts on Google Groups as "limited Usenet experience" is
because he seems himself as one of the most experienced posters of
Usenet ever - he was basically boasting that he has a bigger penis than
you. It's really very sad and, all in all, "John Doe" is the type of
sad loser who would be best avoided if you encountered him in a bar on
a night out.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 06:49:31
From: Wayne
Subject: Re: OT: 500 greatest rock songs of all time.
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John Doe wrote:
> "Joe Ramirez" <josephmramirez netzero.com> wrote:
>
> > and no one, including me, should have any complaints.
>
> Get off of the corn cob and you will have fewer complaints.
Hypocrite. You are the one who constantly whines about OT posts, trolls
and spams. You are the one who complains. You are the one who can't
stand seeing OT posts and trolls without pointlessly responding to them
in an incredibly self-important manner by declaring them trolls or
whatever else you may term them, based on *your* own high and mighty
usenet principles that *you* alone have deemed righteous. You have no
right to tell anyone to lighten up and have "fewer complaints" until
you stop behaving like some self-important Usenet police officer who's
suffering from obsessive compulsive disorder. You have been exposed as
a hypocrite and a self-important computer geek with nothing better to
do.
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