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Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:13:35
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?


very quiet ?

i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
out in swarms ?




 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 22:16:43
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> very quiet ?
>
> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> out in swarms ?


Pretty boring match so far.



  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 11:26:01
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 28, 1:19=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 27, 11:17=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 28, 1:08=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 28, 12:19=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > A pointless post. You have way too much time in your hands to w=
rite
> > > > > > this much about how I use my killfile. Direct this energy to so=
mething
> > > > > > else.
>
> > > > > Since the majority of what you have to say here is hot air, I ser=
iously
> > > > > think we should start looking to you as a possible source of rene=
wable
> > > > > energy.
>
> > > > ? Alright, you are just trying to waste your and my time. I am goin=
g
> > > > to ignore your posts on this particular matter from now on.
>
> > > Too bad you can't do the same with Whisper :(
>
> > I can. I have killfiled him. I ignore almost 100% of his posts
> > directed at me. But you can't do that. You should killfile him. Whimpy
> > is a troll. It's better not to reply to him at all.
>
> And the circle is completed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

My advice has always been simple and clear. I think it's good advice.


   
Date: 27 Jan 2009 20:20:38
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

> On Jan 28, 1:19 am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > On Jan 27, 11:17 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I can. I have killfiled him. I ignore almost 100% of his posts
> > > directed at me. But you can't do that. You should killfile him. Whimpy
> > > is a troll. It's better not to reply to him at all.
> >
> > And the circle is completed.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> My advice has always been simple and clear. I think it's good advice.

If it is so simple and clear, it should be easy for you to follow it
yourself? But you don't, so something is the matter here... What could it
be?

Never fear, I have a proposal for making this easier for you. I will point
out someone who has *effectively* used a killfile and we will call him "top
killfiler on rst", if you will. Then, you can take this as a challenge and
use it as the benchmark to try to beat. In fact, given your nature you can
approach it just like you are trying to beat an all-time record!

Now imagine what an interesting feeling that would be if you were to
succeed! Give it a try, it will honestly be a lot of fun. I promise!


  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 11:19:22
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 27, 11:17=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 28, 1:08=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 28, 12:19=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > A pointless post. You have way too much time in your hands to wri=
te
> > > > > this much about how I use my killfile. Direct this energy to some=
thing
> > > > > else.
>
> > > > Since the majority of what you have to say here is hot air, I serio=
usly
> > > > think we should start looking to you as a possible source of renewa=
ble
> > > > energy.
>
> > > ? Alright, you are just trying to waste your and my time. I am going
> > > to ignore your posts on this particular matter from now on.
>
> > Too bad you can't do the same with Whisper :(
>
> I can. I have killfiled him. I ignore almost 100% of his posts
> directed at me. But you can't do that. You should killfile him. Whimpy
> is a troll. It's better not to reply to him at all.

And the circle is completed.


  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 11:17:57
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 28, 1:08=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 28, 12:19=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > A pointless post. You have way too much time in your hands to write
> > > > this much about how I use my killfile. Direct this energy to someth=
ing
> > > > else.
>
> > > Since the majority of what you have to say here is hot air, I serious=
ly
> > > think we should start looking to you as a possible source of renewabl=
e
> > > energy.
>
> > ? Alright, you are just trying to waste your and my time. I am going
> > to ignore your posts on this particular matter from now on.
>
> Too bad you can't do the same with Whisper :(

I can. I have killfiled him. I ignore almost 100% of his posts
directed at me. But you can't do that. You should killfile him. Whimpy
is a troll. It's better not to reply to him at all.


  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 10:35:28
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 28, 12:19=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A pointless post. You have way too much time in your hands to write
> > this much about how I use my killfile. Direct this energy to something
> > else.
>
> Since the majority of what you have to say here is hot air, I seriously
> think we should start looking to you as a possible source of renewable
> energy.

? Alright, you are just trying to waste your and my time. I am going
to ignore your posts on this particular matter from now on.


   
Date: 27 Jan 2009 19:08:43
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

> On Jan 28, 12:19 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > A pointless post. You have way too much time in your hands to write
> > > this much about how I use my killfile. Direct this energy to something
> > > else.
> >
> > Since the majority of what you have to say here is hot air, I seriously
> > think we should start looking to you as a possible source of renewable
> > energy.
>
> ? Alright, you are just trying to waste your and my time. I am going
> to ignore your posts on this particular matter from now on.

Too bad you can't do the same with Whisper :(


  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 10:30:14
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 27, 10:20 am, "*skriptis" <skrip...@post.t-com.hr > wrote:
> "Sao Paulo Swallow" <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:5f705e3d-b786-4a51-ae4d-c92abfcff142@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> The reason he's killfiled you is obvious to anyone who has followed
> rst for a day and a half. The question is why does he keep
> reprimanding the rest of us for continuing to engage you. Makes him
> your perfect prey, I'd say.
>
> ***
>
> I've been following rst for years now I still haven't seen a poster who
> could claim he's a better contributor to this group.

Only by volume. ;-)



  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 09:59:48
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 27, 5:24=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 25-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 25, 6:02=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and
> > > > > >Manolo
> > > > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the
> > > > > >troll,
> > > > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, an=
d
> > > > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping
> > > > > >that
> > > > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running thro=
ugh
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing =
how
> > > > > >it
> > > > > > is going to end like.
>
> > > > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool m=
e
> > > > > >once.
> > > > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> > > > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as
> > > > > those
> > > > > you
> > > > > complain about....
>
> > > > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > > > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > > > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > > > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>
> > > Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about h=
im
> > > and
> > > then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are
> > > trying
> > > to solve.
>
> > Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> > Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> > % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> > having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> > his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> > me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> > replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> > (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> > it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> > and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> > indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> > here. That is a fact.
>
> If you have to see his replies at all, regardless of whether they were
> reflected or not then clearly he still is your "problem". =A0The fact tha=
t you
> respond to the reflected posts tells me your killfile isn't doing the job
> it's supposed to do. =A0Furthermore, what exactly do you expect when you
> insult him in your responses to others? =A0If you know Whisper as well as=
you
> claim, you would know that he is going to respond in kind and that
> eventually someone will reply and you will see them again. =A0I think you=
get
> pleasure from seeing his posts.
>
> All in all if the above is correct it is clear that you are in fact
> knowingly entering into a flame war with him, regardless of whether it is
> direct or indirect. =A0You are actually *encouraging* him.
>
>
>
> > So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> > take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> > time.
>
> Then why not leave it at that? =A0How much time did you and I just waste
> writing these posts? =A0See how it works?
>
>
>
> > The problem is Whimpy, his trolling and how it turns any decent
> > discussion into a worthless flamefest and just ruins everything in it.
>
> You say that and then turn around and take part in them too.
>
>
>
> > And no, it's not my duty or job to solve the problem of Whimpy. I can
> > only killfile him, occasionally agree with other posters about his
> > stupidity and his general trolling nature, and then encourage other
> > posters to killfile him as well. And that's exactly what I have been
> > doing.
>
> What you describe yourself as doing cannot be accurately described as
> "killfiling". =A0Someone who is seemingly as educated as yourself should =
know
> better than to blame Whisper for replying to you when talk about him. =A0=
If I
> were to ever killfile someone, you wouldn't see me talking about or to th=
at
> person ever again. =A0But then again I don't think I take dissenting opin=
ions
> nearly as personally as you do so I have no need to killfile.

A pointless post. You have way too much time in your hands to write
this much about how I use my killfile. Direct this energy to something
else.


   
Date: 27 Jan 2009 18:19:36
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

On 27-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

> A pointless post. You have way too much time in your hands to write
> this much about how I use my killfile. Direct this energy to something
> else.

Since the majority of what you have to say here is hot air, I seriously
think we should start looking to you as a possible source of renewable
energy.


  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 09:53:04
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 27, 4:25=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jdeluise wrote:
> > On 25-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and
> >>>>>> Manolo
> >>>>>> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the
> >>>>>> troll,
> >>>>>> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> >>>>>> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> is going to end like.
> >>>>>> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me
> >>>>>> once.
> >>>>>> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
> >>>>> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as
> >>>>> those
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> complain about....
> >>>> Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> >>>> this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> >>>> issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> >>>> But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
> >>> Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about h=
im
> >>> and
> >>> then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are
> >>> trying
> >>> to solve.
> >> Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> >> Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> >> % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> >> having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> >> his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> >> me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> >> replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> >> (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> >> it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> >> and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> >> indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> >> here. That is a fact.
>
> > If you have to see his replies at all, regardless of whether they were
> > reflected or not then clearly he still is your "problem". =A0The fact t=
hat you
> > respond to the reflected posts tells me your killfile isn't doing the j=
ob
> > it's supposed to do. =A0Furthermore, what exactly do you expect when yo=
u
> > insult him in your responses to others? =A0If you know Whisper as well =
as you
> > claim, you would know that he is going to respond in kind and that
> > eventually someone will reply and you will see them again. =A0I think y=
ou get
> > pleasure from seeing his posts.
>
> > All in all if the above is correct it is clear that you are in fact
> > knowingly entering into a flame war with him, regardless of whether it =
is
> > direct or indirect. =A0You are actually *encouraging* him.
>
> >> So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> >> take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> >> time.
>
> > Then why not leave it at that? =A0How much time did you and I just wast=
e
> > writing these posts? =A0See how it works?
>
> >> The problem is Whimpy, his trolling and how it turns any decent
> >> discussion into a worthless flamefest and just ruins everything in it.
>
> > You say that and then turn around and take part in them too.
>
> >> And no, it's not my duty or job to solve the problem of Whimpy. I can
> >> only killfile him, occasionally agree with other posters about his
> >> stupidity and his general trolling nature, and then encourage other
> >> posters to killfile him as well. And that's exactly what I have been
> >> doing.
>
> > What you describe yourself as doing cannot be accurately described as
> > "killfiling". =A0Someone who is seemingly as educated as yourself shoul=
d know
> > better than to blame Whisper for replying to you when talk about him. =
=A0If I
> > were to ever killfile someone, you wouldn't see me talking about or to =
that
> > person ever again. =A0But then again I don't think I take dissenting op=
inions
> > nearly as personally as you do so I have no need to killfile.
>
> The reason he's killfiled me is obvious ...

The reason he's killfiled you is obvious to anyone who has followed
rst for a day and a half. The question is why does he keep
reprimanding the rest of us for continuing to engage you. Makes him
your perfect prey, I'd say.


   
Date: 27 Jan 2009 19:20:58
From: *skriptis
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

"Sao Paulo Swallow" <Sao_Paulo_Swallow@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:5f705e3d-b786-4a51-ae4d-c92abfcff142@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com...

The reason he's killfiled you is obvious to anyone who has followed
rst for a day and a half. The question is why does he keep
reprimanding the rest of us for continuing to engage you. Makes him
your perfect prey, I'd say.

***


I've been following rst for years now I still haven't seen a poster who
could claim he's a better contributor to this group.

In terms of both tennis analysis and/or video clips. (Erich has made some
nice clips too)


That's why I came here, to read some non-politicaly correct, non-mainstream
tennis analysis and to enjoy some tennis clips featuring past greats.





  
Date: 27 Jan 2009 09:31:46
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 27, 4:25 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> jdeluise wrote:
> > On 25-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and
> >>>>>> Manolo
> >>>>>> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the
> >>>>>> troll,
> >>>>>> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> >>>>>> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>> is going to end like.
> >>>>>> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me
> >>>>>> once.
> >>>>>> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
> >>>>> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as
> >>>>> those
> >>>>> you
> >>>>> complain about....
> >>>> Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> >>>> this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> >>>> issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> >>>> But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
> >>> Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him
> >>> and
> >>> then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are
> >>> trying
> >>> to solve.
> >> Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> >> Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> >> % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> >> having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> >> his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> >> me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> >> replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> >> (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> >> it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> >> and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> >> indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> >> here. That is a fact.
>
> > If you have to see his replies at all, regardless of whether they were
> > reflected or not then clearly he still is your "problem". The fact that you
> > respond to the reflected posts tells me your killfile isn't doing the job
> > it's supposed to do. Furthermore, what exactly do you expect when you
> > insult him in your responses to others? If you know Whisper as well as you
> > claim, you would know that he is going to respond in kind and that
> > eventually someone will reply and you will see them again. I think you get
> > pleasure from seeing his posts.
>
> > All in all if the above is correct it is clear that you are in fact
> > knowingly entering into a flame war with him, regardless of whether it is
> > direct or indirect. You are actually *encouraging* him.
>
> >> So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> >> take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> >> time.
>
> > Then why not leave it at that? How much time did you and I just waste
> > writing these posts? See how it works?
>
> >> The problem is Whimpy, his trolling and how it turns any decent
> >> discussion into a worthless flamefest and just ruins everything in it.
>
> > You say that and then turn around and take part in them too.
>
> >> And no, it's not my duty or job to solve the problem of Whimpy. I can
> >> only killfile him, occasionally agree with other posters about his
> >> stupidity and his general trolling nature, and then encourage other
> >> posters to killfile him as well. And that's exactly what I have been
> >> doing.
>
> > What you describe yourself as doing cannot be accurately described as
> > "killfiling". Someone who is seemingly as educated as yourself should know
> > better than to blame Whisper for replying to you when talk about him. If I
> > were to ever killfile someone, you wouldn't see me talking about or to that
> > person ever again. But then again I don't think I take dissenting opinions
> > nearly as personally as you do so I have no need to killfile.
>
> The reason he's killfiled me is obvious -

Yup.


  
Date: 26 Jan 2009 15:49:26
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 26, 3:03 pm, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 26 jan, 23:18, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 26, 1:10 pm, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 26 jan, 18:35, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 25, 10:10 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > > > > > > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > > > > > > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > > > > > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > > > > > > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > > > > > > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > > > > > > > > is going to end like.
>
> > > > > > > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > > > > > > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> > > > > > > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > complain about....
>
> > > > > > > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > > > > > > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > > > > > > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > > > > > > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>
> > > > > > Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
> > > > > > then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
> > > > > > to solve.
>
> > > > > Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> > > > > Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> > > > > % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> > > > > having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> > > > > his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> > > > > me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> > > > > replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> > > > > (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> > > > > it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> > > > > and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> > > > > indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> > > > > here. That is a fact.
>
> > > > > So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> > > > > take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> > > > > time.
>
> > > > Arnab - why don't you look at your posts in this thread, particularly
> > > > including this one, and compare how much of it was "good discussion"
> > > > and not a "complete waste of your time" to how much it was the exact
> > > > opposite. John Sheridan (for any Babylon 5 fans present) said it best
> > > > - "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."
>
> > > Babylon5 quote was excellent.
> > > That serie started using Amigas (beloved computer from my teenage)
> > > with LightWave for 3D rendering & VideoToaster for compositing... Now
> > > RSTers know where my alias came from :-)
> > > I had once contacts by that time with people involved in...
> > > I was questionning about how to have the VT on sale in Europe (for it
> > > was only NTSC by then), and share few mail (snail-mails!) with Newtek,
> > > the inventors of both LightWave & the VideoToaster.
> > > I found the docs & prices they send me few days ago, along with that
> > > 1997 Tennis Magazine I was talking about in another post (http://
> > > groups.google.fr/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_frm/thread/
> > > 3cd21511ef8752c3) when I visited my parents.
> > > Can't say I was fan of the serie, much more of its "techno makin'of
> > > background"
>
> > > Share & Enjoy,
> > > Manolo
>
> > Really? I still find it the single best Sci-Fi series, and top-3 for
> > all series', I've seen. The first season was slow and woodenly acted,
> > but like a good book set up the rest of the story, and once it hit
> > season 2 - forget about it.
>
> I can't say I was much on Sci-Fi series (perhaps I do love too much
> Philip K. Dick to enjoy "tv sci-fi").
> I still love "The Prisonner", & "The Persuaders"... both more
> fictional than science-related (but for the big white bubbles taking
> the prisonner back to the village! :-)
> Talking about The Prisonner, RIP dear Patrick MacGoohan, I had written
> some tribute to him on my blog :-(
> Can't remember much sci-fi series I've been watching, few or more
> often.
> I have few episodes (the ones I liked the most, obviously) from the
> black & white "4th dimension" (if that's the correct original title)
> in mind.
>
> In France Babylon5 was broadcasted by the first pay-tv (Canal+), wich
> my parents did not have (Canal+ wasn't available in the whole country,
> anyway) suscribed to (and wich was so easy to hack!).
> So I never had a chance to watch an entire season while teenager...
> After that, I had not much time for TV :-) I was hardly at home, often
> in pubs, sharing pints of Guinness with friends, and working hard with
> girls in order not to sleep alone!
>
> Share & Enjoy,
> Manolo

Well, if you ever have time away from the girls and want to witness an
epic, you can catch at least several of the seasons on hulu.com. ;-)


  
Date: 26 Jan 2009 15:03:29
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 26 jan, 23:18, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 26, 1:10 pm, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 26 jan, 18:35, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 25, 10:10 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > > > > > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > > > > > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > > > > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > > > > > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > > > > > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > > > > > > > is going to end like.
>
> > > > > > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > > > > > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> > > > > > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > complain about....
>
> > > > > > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > > > > > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > > > > > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > > > > > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>
> > > > > Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
> > > > > then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
> > > > > to solve.
>
> > > > Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> > > > Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> > > > % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> > > > having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> > > > his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> > > > me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> > > > replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> > > > (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> > > > it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> > > > and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> > > > indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> > > > here. That is a fact.
>
> > > > So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> > > > take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> > > > time.
>
> > > Arnab - why don't you look at your posts in this thread, particularly
> > > including this one, and compare how much of it was "good discussion"
> > > and not a "complete waste of your time" to how much it was the exact
> > > opposite. John Sheridan (for any Babylon 5 fans present) said it best
> > > - "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."
>
> > Babylon5 quote was excellent.
> > That serie started using Amigas (beloved computer from my teenage)
> > with LightWave for 3D rendering & VideoToaster for compositing... Now
> > RSTers know where my alias came from :-)
> > I had once contacts by that time with people involved in...
> > I was questionning about how to have the VT on sale in Europe (for it
> > was only NTSC by then), and share few mail (snail-mails!) with Newtek,
> > the inventors of both LightWave & the VideoToaster.
> > I found the docs & prices they send me few days ago, along with that
> > 1997 Tennis Magazine I was talking about in another post (http://
> > groups.google.fr/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_frm/thread/
> > 3cd21511ef8752c3) when I visited my parents.
> > Can't say I was fan of the serie, much more of its "techno makin'of
> > background"
>
> > Share & Enjoy,
> > Manolo
>
> Really? I still find it the single best Sci-Fi series, and top-3 for
> all series', I've seen. The first season was slow and woodenly acted,
> but like a good book set up the rest of the story, and once it hit
> season 2 - forget about it.

I can't say I was much on Sci-Fi series (perhaps I do love too much
Philip K. Dick to enjoy "tv sci-fi").
I still love "The Prisonner", & "The Persuaders"... both more
fictional than science-related (but for the big white bubbles taking
the prisonner back to the village! :-)
Talking about The Prisonner, RIP dear Patrick MacGoohan, I had written
some tribute to him on my blog :-(
Can't remember much sci-fi series I've been watching, few or more
often.
I have few episodes (the ones I liked the most, obviously) from the
black & white "4th dimension" (if that's the correct original title)
in mind.

In France Babylon5 was broadcasted by the first pay-tv (Canal+), wich
my parents did not have (Canal+ wasn't available in the whole country,
anyway) suscribed to (and wich was so easy to hack!).
So I never had a chance to watch an entire season while teenager...
After that, I had not much time for TV :-) I was hardly at home, often
in pubs, sharing pints of Guinness with friends, and working hard with
girls in order not to sleep alone!

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


  
Date: 26 Jan 2009 14:49:19
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 26 jan, 22:33, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> xami...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On 26 jan, 18:35, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Jan 25, 10:10 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> >>>>>>> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> >>>>>>> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> >>>>>>> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> >>>>>>> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> >>>>>>> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> >>>>>>> is going to end like.
> >>>>>>> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> >>>>>>> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
> >>>>>> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> complain about....
> >>>>> Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> >>>>> this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> >>>>> issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> >>>>> But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
> >>>> Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
> >>>> then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
> >>>> to solve.
> >>> Let me tell you how it works from my side.
> >>> Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> >>> % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> >>> having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> >>> his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> >>> me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> >>> replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> >>> (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> >>> it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> >>> and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> >>> indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> >>> here. That is a fact.
> >>> So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> >>> take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> >>> time.
> >> Arnab - why don't you look at your posts in this thread, particularly
> >> including this one, and compare how much of it was "good discussion"
> >> and not a "complete waste of your time" to how much it was the exact
> >> opposite. John Sheridan (for any Babylon 5 fans present) said it best
> >> - "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."
>
> > Babylon5 quote was excellent.
> > That serie started using Amigas (beloved computer from my teenage)
> > with LightWave for 3D rendering & VideoToaster for compositing... Now
> > RSTers know where my alias came from :-)
> > I had once contacts by that time with people involved in...
> > I was questionning about how to have the VT on sale in Europe (for it
> > was only NTSC by then), and share few mail (snail-mails!) with Newtek,
> > the inventors of both LightWave & the VideoToaster.
> > I found the docs & prices they send me few days ago, along with that
> > 1997 Tennis Magazine I was talking about in another post (http://
> > groups.google.fr/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_frm/thread/
> > 3cd21511ef8752c3) when I visited my parents.
> > Can't say I was fan of the serie, much more of its "techno makin'of
> > background"
>
> > Share & Enjoy,
> > Manolo
>
> So which were the best games for Amiga in your opinion?
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"

Too many brilliant games on Amigan (still talking about computer, are
we?)...
it depends on what kind of game you enjoy.

Shoot'em up? Xenon2, Hybris, Goldrunner...
Sport? Kick Off, Sensible Soccer
Cars? Lotus challenge...
Mouse training? Marble Madness
Team? Garisson (Gauntlet like)
Middle Age? Defender of the crown...

Amiga was the golden age of home cumputers...

I still have two Amigas (1000 & 4030), with lots of floppy discs.
I was more in the demoscene, I guess most of my discs are full of
demos, not games.

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


   
Date: 27 Jan 2009 01:32:18
From: TT
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
xamigax@gmail.com wrote:
> On 26 jan, 22:33, TT <g...@Olympics.org> wrote:
>> xami...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On 26 jan, 18:35, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 25, 10:10 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
>>>>>>>>> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
>>>>>>>>> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
>>>>>>>>> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
>>>>>>>>> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
>>>>>>>>> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
>>>>>>>>> is going to end like.
>>>>>>>>> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
>>>>>>>>> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>>>>>>>> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> complain about....
>>>>>>> Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
>>>>>>> this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
>>>>>>> issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
>>>>>>> But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>>>>>> Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
>>>>>> then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
>>>>>> to solve.
>>>>> Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>>>>> Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
>>>>> % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
>>>>> having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
>>>>> his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
>>>>> me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
>>>>> replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
>>>>> (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
>>>>> it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
>>>>> and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
>>>>> indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
>>>>> here. That is a fact.
>>>>> So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
>>>>> take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
>>>>> time.
>>>> Arnab - why don't you look at your posts in this thread, particularly
>>>> including this one, and compare how much of it was "good discussion"
>>>> and not a "complete waste of your time" to how much it was the exact
>>>> opposite. John Sheridan (for any Babylon 5 fans present) said it best
>>>> - "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."
>>> Babylon5 quote was excellent.
>>> That serie started using Amigas (beloved computer from my teenage)
>>> with LightWave for 3D rendering & VideoToaster for compositing... Now
>>> RSTers know where my alias came from :-)
>>> I had once contacts by that time with people involved in...
>>> I was questionning about how to have the VT on sale in Europe (for it
>>> was only NTSC by then), and share few mail (snail-mails!) with Newtek,
>>> the inventors of both LightWave & the VideoToaster.
>>> I found the docs & prices they send me few days ago, along with that
>>> 1997 Tennis Magazine I was talking about in another post (http://
>>> groups.google.fr/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_frm/thread/
>>> 3cd21511ef8752c3) when I visited my parents.
>>> Can't say I was fan of the serie, much more of its "techno makin'of
>>> background"
>>> Share & Enjoy,
>>> Manolo
>> So which were the best games for Amiga in your opinion?
>>
>> --
>> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
>> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"
>
> Too many brilliant games on Amigan (still talking about computer, are
> we?)...
> it depends on what kind of game you enjoy.
>
> Shoot'em up? Xenon2, Hybris, Goldrunner...
> Sport? Kick Off, Sensible Soccer
> Cars? Lotus challenge...
> Mouse training? Marble Madness
> Team? Garisson (Gauntlet like)
> Middle Age? Defender of the crown...
>
> Amiga was the golden age of home cumputers...
>
> I still have two Amigas (1000 & 4030), with lots of floppy discs.
> I was more in the demoscene, I guess most of my discs are full of
> demos, not games.
>
> Share & Enjoy,
> Manolo

Okay. I'm not very familiar with most of those games you mentioned.
Except Marble Madness on which I scored world class 170k using a
trackball and playing on an original arcade cabinet by Atari. :)

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 26 Jan 2009 14:18:17
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 26, 1:10 pm, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 26 jan, 18:35, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 25, 10:10 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > > > > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > > > > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > > > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > > > > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > > > > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > > > > > > is going to end like.
>
> > > > > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > > > > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> > > > > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > complain about....
>
> > > > > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > > > > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > > > > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > > > > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>
> > > > Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
> > > > then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
> > > > to solve.
>
> > > Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> > > Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> > > % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> > > having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> > > his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> > > me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> > > replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> > > (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> > > it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> > > and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> > > indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> > > here. That is a fact.
>
> > > So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> > > take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> > > time.
>
> > Arnab - why don't you look at your posts in this thread, particularly
> > including this one, and compare how much of it was "good discussion"
> > and not a "complete waste of your time" to how much it was the exact
> > opposite. John Sheridan (for any Babylon 5 fans present) said it best
> > - "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."
>
> Babylon5 quote was excellent.
> That serie started using Amigas (beloved computer from my teenage)
> with LightWave for 3D rendering & VideoToaster for compositing... Now
> RSTers know where my alias came from :-)
> I had once contacts by that time with people involved in...
> I was questionning about how to have the VT on sale in Europe (for it
> was only NTSC by then), and share few mail (snail-mails!) with Newtek,
> the inventors of both LightWave & the VideoToaster.
> I found the docs & prices they send me few days ago, along with that
> 1997 Tennis Magazine I was talking about in another post (http://
> groups.google.fr/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_frm/thread/
> 3cd21511ef8752c3) when I visited my parents.
> Can't say I was fan of the serie, much more of its "techno makin'of
> background"
>
> Share & Enjoy,
> Manolo

Really? I still find it the single best Sci-Fi series, and top-3 for
all series', I've seen. The first season was slow and woodenly acted,
but like a good book set up the rest of the story, and once it hit
season 2 - forget about it.


  
Date: 26 Jan 2009 13:18:00
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 24 jan, 12:26, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
> > <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>>>>> very quiet ?
> >>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will b=
e
> >>>>>> out in swarms ?
> >>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> >>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> >>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
> >> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> >> turn Hazey on.
> >> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> >> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> >> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> >> giving evidences of you being one.
> >> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
> >> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
> >> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> >> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> >> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
> >> reality (fed/safin=3Dboring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
> >> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> >> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
> >> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> >> Share & Enjoy,
> >> Manolo
>
> > excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to nab
> > that lying fox from newcastle.
>
> He's just some dumb French guy. =A0I already said Federer played extremel=
y
> well & can only lose to Rafa in this tournament.

That "some dumb French guy" easily takes care of you, biased Aussie.
I just can't remember you proving me wrong, "tier1 analyst".

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


  
Date: 26 Jan 2009 13:10:31
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 26 jan, 18:35, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 25, 10:10 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > > > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > > > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > > > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > > > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > > > > > is going to end like.
>
> > > > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > > > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> > > > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
> > > > > you
> > > > > complain about....
>
> > > > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > > > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > > > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > > > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>
> > > Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
> > > then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
> > > to solve.
>
> > Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> > Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> > % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> > having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> > his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> > me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> > replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> > (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> > it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> > and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> > indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> > here. That is a fact.
>
> > So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> > take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> > time.
>
> Arnab - why don't you look at your posts in this thread, particularly
> including this one, and compare how much of it was "good discussion"
> and not a "complete waste of your time" to how much it was the exact
> opposite. John Sheridan (for any Babylon 5 fans present) said it best
> - "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."

Babylon5 quote was excellent.
That serie started using Amigas (beloved computer from my teenage)
with LightWave for 3D rendering & VideoToaster for compositing... Now
RSTers know where my alias came from :-)
I had once contacts by that time with people involved in...
I was questionning about how to have the VT on sale in Europe (for it
was only NTSC by then), and share few mail (snail-mails!) with Newtek,
the inventors of both LightWave & the VideoToaster.
I found the docs & prices they send me few days ago, along with that
1997 Tennis Magazine I was talking about in another post (http://
groups.google.fr/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_frm/thread/
3cd21511ef8752c3) when I visited my parents.
Can't say I was fan of the serie, much more of its "techno makin'of
background"


Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


   
Date: 26 Jan 2009 23:33:52
From: TT
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
xamigax@gmail.com wrote:
> On 26 jan, 18:35, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Jan 25, 10:10 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
>>>>>>> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
>>>>>>> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
>>>>>>> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
>>>>>>> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
>>>>>>> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
>>>>>>> is going to end like.
>>>>>>> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
>>>>>>> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>>>>>> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> complain about....
>>>>> Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
>>>>> this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
>>>>> issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
>>>>> But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>>>> Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
>>>> then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
>>>> to solve.
>>> Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>>> Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
>>> % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
>>> having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
>>> his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
>>> me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
>>> replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
>>> (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
>>> it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
>>> and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
>>> indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
>>> here. That is a fact.
>>> So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
>>> take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
>>> time.
>> Arnab - why don't you look at your posts in this thread, particularly
>> including this one, and compare how much of it was "good discussion"
>> and not a "complete waste of your time" to how much it was the exact
>> opposite. John Sheridan (for any Babylon 5 fans present) said it best
>> - "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."
>
> Babylon5 quote was excellent.
> That serie started using Amigas (beloved computer from my teenage)
> with LightWave for 3D rendering & VideoToaster for compositing... Now
> RSTers know where my alias came from :-)
> I had once contacts by that time with people involved in...
> I was questionning about how to have the VT on sale in Europe (for it
> was only NTSC by then), and share few mail (snail-mails!) with Newtek,
> the inventors of both LightWave & the VideoToaster.
> I found the docs & prices they send me few days ago, along with that
> 1997 Tennis Magazine I was talking about in another post (http://
> groups.google.fr/group/rec.sport.tennis/browse_frm/thread/
> 3cd21511ef8752c3) when I visited my parents.
> Can't say I was fan of the serie, much more of its "techno makin'of
> background"
>
>
> Share & Enjoy,
> Manolo

So which were the best games for Amiga in your opinion?



--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"


  
Date: 26 Jan 2009 09:35:11
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 25, 10:10 pm, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > > > > is going to end like.
>
> > > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> > > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
> > > > you
> > > > complain about....
>
> > > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>
> > Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
> > then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
> > to solve.
>
> Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> here. That is a fact.
>
> So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> time.

Arnab - why don't you look at your posts in this thread, particularly
including this one, and compare how much of it was "good discussion"
and not a "complete waste of your time" to how much it was the exact
opposite. John Sheridan (for any Babylon 5 fans present) said it best
- "When you become obsessed with the enemy, you become the enemy."


  
Date: 25 Jan 2009 22:10:30
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 25, 6:02=A0am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Man=
olo
> > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the trol=
l,
> > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through =
the
> > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how =
it
> > > > is going to end like.
>
> > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me on=
ce.
> > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as tho=
se
> > > you
> > > complain about....
>
> > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>
> Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him a=
nd
> then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are tryin=
g
> to solve.

Let me tell you how it works from my side.

Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
% of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
(mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
here. That is a fact.

So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
time.

The problem is Whimpy, his trolling and how it turns any decent
discussion into a worthless flamefest and just ruins everything in it.

And no, it's not my duty or job to solve the problem of Whimpy. I can
only killfile him, occasionally agree with other posters about his
stupidity and his general trolling nature, and then encourage other
posters to killfile him as well. And that's exactly what I have been
doing.


   
Date: 26 Jan 2009 23:24:44
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

On 25-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

> On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and
> > > > >Manolo
> > > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the
> > > > >troll,
> > > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping
> > > > >that
> > > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through
> > > > >the
> > > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how
> > > > >it
> > > > > is going to end like.
> >
> > > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me
> > > > >once.
> > > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
> >
> > > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as
> > > > those
> > > > you
> > > > complain about....
> >
> > > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
> >
> > Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him
> > and
> > then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are
> > trying
> > to solve.
>
> Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>
> Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
> % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
> having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
> his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
> me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
> replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
> (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
> it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
> and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
> indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
> here. That is a fact.
>

If you have to see his replies at all, regardless of whether they were
reflected or not then clearly he still is your "problem". The fact that you
respond to the reflected posts tells me your killfile isn't doing the job
it's supposed to do. Furthermore, what exactly do you expect when you
insult him in your responses to others? If you know Whisper as well as you
claim, you would know that he is going to respond in kind and that
eventually someone will reply and you will see them again. I think you get
pleasure from seeing his posts.

All in all if the above is correct it is clear that you are in fact
knowingly entering into a flame war with him, regardless of whether it is
direct or indirect. You are actually *encouraging* him.

>
> So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
> take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
> time.
>

Then why not leave it at that? How much time did you and I just waste
writing these posts? See how it works?

>
> The problem is Whimpy, his trolling and how it turns any decent
> discussion into a worthless flamefest and just ruins everything in it.
>

You say that and then turn around and take part in them too.

>
> And no, it's not my duty or job to solve the problem of Whimpy. I can
> only killfile him, occasionally agree with other posters about his
> stupidity and his general trolling nature, and then encourage other
> posters to killfile him as well. And that's exactly what I have been
> doing.

What you describe yourself as doing cannot be accurately described as
"killfiling". Someone who is seemingly as educated as yourself should know
better than to blame Whisper for replying to you when talk about him. If I
were to ever killfile someone, you wouldn't see me talking about or to that
person ever again. But then again I don't think I take dissenting opinions
nearly as personally as you do so I have no need to killfile.


    
Date: 27 Jan 2009 23:25:09
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
jdeluise wrote:
> On 25-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 25, 6:02 am, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and
>>>>>> Manolo
>>>>>> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the
>>>>>> troll,
>>>>>> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
>>>>>> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> is going to end like.
>>>>>> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me
>>>>>> once.
>>>>>> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>>>>> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as
>>>>> those
>>>>> you
>>>>> complain about....
>>>> Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
>>>> this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
>>>> issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
>>>> But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>>> Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him
>>> and
>>> then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are
>>> trying
>>> to solve.
>> Let me tell you how it works from my side.
>>
>> Whimpy is a troll. I have come to the conclusion that his posts in 90+
>> % of the cases have no real value and is actually detrimental to
>> having a good tennis discussion. I have killfiled him, so I don't see
>> his stupid replies, at least the ones that are directly addressed to
>> me. He is not my "problem" any more. I only see his posts in reflected
>> replies and respond *not* to him, but to the poster who replied to him
>> (mostly agreeing with him about Whimpy's error), whenever I feel like
>> it. I almost never directly respond to Whimpy (unless I am using IE
>> and the firefox-based killfile filter isn't there anymore), and even
>> indirectly, I reply to Whimpy far, far less than many regular posters
>> here. That is a fact.
>>
>
> If you have to see his replies at all, regardless of whether they were
> reflected or not then clearly he still is your "problem". The fact that you
> respond to the reflected posts tells me your killfile isn't doing the job
> it's supposed to do. Furthermore, what exactly do you expect when you
> insult him in your responses to others? If you know Whisper as well as you
> claim, you would know that he is going to respond in kind and that
> eventually someone will reply and you will see them again. I think you get
> pleasure from seeing his posts.
>
> All in all if the above is correct it is clear that you are in fact
> knowingly entering into a flame war with him, regardless of whether it is
> direct or indirect. You are actually *encouraging* him.
>
>> So I am not part of the "problem", no. I don't troll. I come here to
>> take part in good discussions that won't be a complete waste of my
>> time.
>>
>
> Then why not leave it at that? How much time did you and I just waste
> writing these posts? See how it works?
>
>> The problem is Whimpy, his trolling and how it turns any decent
>> discussion into a worthless flamefest and just ruins everything in it.
>>
>
> You say that and then turn around and take part in them too.
>
>> And no, it's not my duty or job to solve the problem of Whimpy. I can
>> only killfile him, occasionally agree with other posters about his
>> stupidity and his general trolling nature, and then encourage other
>> posters to killfile him as well. And that's exactly what I have been
>> doing.
>
> What you describe yourself as doing cannot be accurately described as
> "killfiling". Someone who is seemingly as educated as yourself should know
> better than to blame Whisper for replying to you when talk about him. If I
> were to ever killfile someone, you wouldn't see me talking about or to that
> person ever again. But then again I don't think I take dissenting opinions
> nearly as personally as you do so I have no need to killfile.


The reason he's killfiled me is obvious - he's lost each & every
argument we've ever had & his options are limited to;

a) Thanking me for setting him on to a higher path of tennis understanding;

b) Pseudo killfiling me so he can simply ignore my argument killers.


Just ignore the tit - complete bore & waste of space. Almost as bad as
Waltz.



  
Date: 25 Jan 2009 17:02:12
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 jan, 16:09, Sakari Lund <sakari.l...@welho.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:54:47 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
>
>
>
> <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 23 jan, 12:54, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> xami...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> >> >>> very quiet ?
> >> >>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >> >>> out in swarms ?
> >> >> Pretty boring match so far.
>
> >> > Can't believe you're that biased...
> >> > Or just trying to turn on Hazel, who never needed you anyway to buzz
> >> > around whenever Fed is ahead.
> >> > Some excellent tennis out there, clean play, both players focused...
> >> > Way better thanmostof what I've seen so far for this AO09.
> >> > Check out Ivanovic's match to see what I mean, can't believe how bad
> >> > the play is, for a former #1. Okay it's hot, but for fuck sake, the
> >> > speed of their balls is almost in my league!
>
> >> > Share & Enjoy,
> >> > Manolo
>
> >> It's always 30% faster than it looks on tv.
>
> >Okay, you made a clear entrance into the "moststupidwords of the
> >month".
> >Congratulations.
> >Why are you trying so hard to look like a (tier-1) imbecile?
>
> What wasstupidin that?

On what level do you need any answer?
It's stupid because:
1.the Safin/Federer match is AS WELL on tv.
2.I have taped few matches from our own club's tournament, and belive
me it looked faster on tv (not me, finalists looked faster)
3.it's ultimatly stupid to claim that "it's always 30% faster than it
looks on tv", is whiskey Mr Spock? Where does that "30%" come from?
not 28%? nor 33%?
Childish behaviour trying to quantify was basically isn't.
Plus: what can be measured on the court (speed serve) tells you how
good things ARE, no matter what they LOOK on tv.

I'm no playstation tennis player, I play tennis "grandeur nature", so
TV isn't my usual reference.

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


  
Date: 25 Jan 2009 15:29:29
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 24 jan, 12:37, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> PeteWasLucky wrote:
> > On Jan 23, 8:13 am, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>>>>> very quiet ?
> >>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >>>>>> out in swarms ?
> >>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> >>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> >>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
> >> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> >> turn Hazey on.
> >> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> >> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> >> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> >> giving evidences of you being one.
> >> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
> >> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
> >> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> >> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> >> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
> >> reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
> >> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> >> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
> >> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> >> Share & Enjoy,
> >> Manolo- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Ha ha, it seems you joined rst recently or it took you longer to
> > figure out Whisper.
> > Let me put it this way, when a guy watches a full match for many hours
> > to end up editing the video to post a clip of a bad volley, there is
> > nothing more to be said.
> > People think he is a Sampras fan, but believe me he is not a Sampras'
> > fan or a tennis fan either.
>
> I am a fan of real tennis & the truth.

The truth?
What are you talking about?
Still too young to understand that there isn't one?
Define truth, I'll see if I can help better than the quick words
below.

If you are talking about "historical truth", then I see two options:
1. you want to be seen as someone from the "winners" side, for truth
is written afterwards, by winners (few exemples of negociated points
with loosers), after some wars / political trades (wich are different
ways to obtain quite similar results).
In that case, how do you think History will judge the Bush's
administration?
Was there ANY truth about Irak, or -for what we know now- even
pointing Bin Laden as the 9.11 brain?
So far, only claims... On purpose lies, in fact. If you dare not to
use diplomatical understatements.

2. my own idea of what truth is, and it can as well be yours, is that
one can call "truth" anything that had been witnessed -and descibed-
by "enough" people NOT sharing identical goals.
And this one is just a tricky as life, for it can be very hard to
agree on the number of people needed to "establish" a point.
It might sounds weird, but "truth" is a construction from
contradictory points of view.


Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 16:07:42
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 24, 4:02=A0pm, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Man=
olo
> > > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the trol=
l,
> > > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through =
the
> > > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how =
it
> > > > is going to end like.
>
> > > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me on=
ce.
> > > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> > > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as tho=
se
> > > you
> > > complain about....
>
> > Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> > this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> > issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> > But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.
>
> Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him a=
nd
> then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are tryin=
g
> to solve.

LOL @ arnab. jdeluise and I made a simple point. Even Whisper got
it ;-)


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 07:59:02
From: Adam Thirnis
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 24, 3:54=A0pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 24, 10:16=A0am, Adam Thirnis <adam.thir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 24, 2:54=A0pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 24, 6:26=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
> > > > > <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > >> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> > > > >>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>
> > > > >>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> very quiet ?
> > > > >>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they =
will be
> > > > >>>>>> out in swarms ?
> > > > >>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> > > > >>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> > > > >>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer mat=
ch.
> > > > >> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying =
to
> > > > >> turn Hazey on.
> > > > >> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mi=
nd.
> > > > >> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you =
on
> > > > >> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dum=
b than
> > > > >> giving evidences of you being one.
> > > > >> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balanc=
e.
> > > > >> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more ofte=
n:
> > > > >> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> > > > >> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> > > > >> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a=
false
> > > > >> reality (fed/safin=3Dboring match & rooting for very poor tennis=
as
> > > > >> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> > > > >> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on th=
e
> > > > >> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> > > > >> Share & Enjoy,
> > > > >> Manolo
>
> > > > > excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to =
nab
> > > > > that lying fox from newcastle.
>
> > > > He's just some dumb French guy. =A0I already said Federer played ex=
tremely
> > > > well & can only lose to Rafa in this tournament.- Hide quoted text =
-
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > Why did you sour on Murray? Because of all the hype and expectations?
>
> > because federer beat him soundly in uso final-
>
> No. Whisper said after Murray beat Fed in Doha that he was his pick at
> that time for AO.

probably drunk


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 07:54:35
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 24, 10:16=A0am, Adam Thirnis <adam.thir...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 24, 2:54=A0pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 24, 6:26=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
> > > > <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > > >>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > > >>>>>> very quiet ?
> > > >>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they wi=
ll be
> > > >>>>>> out in swarms ?
> > > >>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> > > >>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> > > >>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match=
.
> > > >> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > > >> turn Hazey on.
> > > >> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind=
.
> > > >> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > > >> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb =
than
> > > >> giving evidences of you being one.
> > > >> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
> > > >> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
> > > >> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> > > >> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> > > >> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a f=
alse
> > > >> reality (fed/safin=3Dboring match & rooting for very poor tennis a=
s
> > > >> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> > > >> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
> > > >> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> > > >> Share & Enjoy,
> > > >> Manolo
>
> > > > excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to na=
b
> > > > that lying fox from newcastle.
>
> > > He's just some dumb French guy. =A0I already said Federer played extr=
emely
> > > well & can only lose to Rafa in this tournament.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Why did you sour on Murray? Because of all the hype and expectations?
>
> because federer beat him soundly in uso final-

No. Whisper said after Murray beat Fed in Doha that he was his pick at
that time for AO.


   
Date: 25 Jan 2009 03:28:07
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Jason Catlin wrote:
> On Jan 24, 10:16 am, Adam Thirnis <adam.thir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 2:54 pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 24, 6:26 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
>>>>> <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>>>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>>>>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>>>>>> turn Hazey on.
>>>>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>>>>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>>>>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>>>>>> giving evidences of you being one.
>>>>>> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
>>>>>> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
>>>>>> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
>>>>>> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
>>>>>> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
>>>>>> reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
>>>>>> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>>>>>> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
>>>>>> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>>>>>> Share & Enjoy,
>>>>>> Manolo
>>>>> excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to nab
>>>>> that lying fox from newcastle.
>>>> He's just some dumb French guy. I already said Federer played extremely
>>>> well & can only lose to Rafa in this tournament.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Why did you sour on Murray? Because of all the hype and expectations?
>> because federer beat him soundly in uso final-
>
> No. Whisper said after Murray beat Fed in Doha that he was his pick at
> that time for AO.


I have Murray as 3rd fave behind Rafa/Fed, but certainly it's set up for
him to win his 1st slam in style beating those 2 - just the way Fed/Rafa
are starting to fire makes it much tougher for him. It could all turn
out in Fed's favor if Murray wears himself out with tough win v Rafa.

Most likely scenario Rafa beats Murray in very tough 4 setter (say 64 57
76 76) & then Fed by similar margin (76 63 46 64).


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 07:16:45
From: Adam Thirnis
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 24, 2:54=A0pm, Jason Catlin <jason-cat...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 24, 6:26=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
> > > <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > >>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > >>>>>> very quiet ?
> > >>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will=
be
> > >>>>>> out in swarms ?
> > >>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> > >>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> > >>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
> > >> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > >> turn Hazey on.
> > >> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > >> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > >> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb th=
an
> > >> giving evidences of you being one.
> > >> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
> > >> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
> > >> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> > >> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> > >> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a fal=
se
> > >> reality (fed/safin=3Dboring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
> > >> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> > >> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
> > >> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> > >> Share & Enjoy,
> > >> Manolo
>
> > > excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to nab
> > > that lying fox from newcastle.
>
> > He's just some dumb French guy. =A0I already said Federer played extrem=
ely
> > well & can only lose to Rafa in this tournament.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Why did you sour on Murray? Because of all the hype and expectations?

because federer beat him soundly in uso final


  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:54:47
From: Jason Catlin
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 24, 6:26=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
> > <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>>>>> very quiet ?
> >>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will b=
e
> >>>>>> out in swarms ?
> >>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> >>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> >>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
> >> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> >> turn Hazey on.
> >> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> >> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> >> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> >> giving evidences of you being one.
> >> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
> >> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
> >> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> >> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> >> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
> >> reality (fed/safin=3Dboring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
> >> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> >> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
> >> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> >> Share & Enjoy,
> >> Manolo
>
> > excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to nab
> > that lying fox from newcastle.
>
> He's just some dumb French guy. =A0I already said Federer played extremel=
y
> well & can only lose to Rafa in this tournament.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Why did you sour on Murray? Because of all the hype and expectations?


   
Date: 25 Jan 2009 03:21:53
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Jason Catlin wrote:
> On Jan 24, 6:26 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
>>> <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>>>> turn Hazey on.
>>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>>>> giving evidences of you being one.
>>>> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
>>>> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
>>>> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
>>>> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
>>>> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
>>>> reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
>>>> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>>>> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
>>>> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>>>> Share & Enjoy,
>>>> Manolo
>>> excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to nab
>>> that lying fox from newcastle.
>> He's just some dumb French guy. I already said Federer played extremely
>> well & can only lose to Rafa in this tournament.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Why did you sour on Murray? Because of all the hype and expectations?


No, because Rafa is no.1 & I think it'll be tough for Murray to beat him
in 2 slam semis in a row. Remember Rafa looked like he was going to
push it to 5 at USO but he really was spent after a long yr.

He's gotten better every yr at AO & I think that trend will continue.
Last yr he got ambushed by a hot Tsonga, this yr he won't take those
guys lightly. Murray can beat him yes, but I think Rafa will be pumped
& keep him waiting a little longer for his slam breakthrough.




  
Date: 24 Jan 2009 06:21:58
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
=A0If I were a troll then it wouldn't take much
> for everyone to ignore me as I'd be talking Haze-level gibberish. =A0I
> speak the truth & you don't like it as it makes perfect sense.

Nope, the best trolls know how to push peoples' buttons and manipulate
while talking coherently/ 'intelligently'. Just because you don't use
Haze's "ah ha aha aha ha Fed is God Bush is a lying scumbag who should
be SHOT Nadal is a CHEAT" etc. doesn't mean you're not a troll.



  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 20:06:42
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > is going to end like.
>
> > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those you
> complain about....

Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.


   
Date: 25 Jan 2009 00:02:39
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

> On 24 Jan., 02:13, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > > is going to end like.
> >
> > > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
> >
> > And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those
> > you
> > complain about....
>
> Er...not at all. Look, it seems to me that you (and SPS) are taking
> this personally. May be you have dad/mom issues or elderly people
> issues or something like that, so you are reacting like this to me.
> But that doesn't change the efficacy of my advice.

Go and count how many replies you got from Whisper by talking about him and
then come back and tell me you aren't part of the "problem" you are trying
to solve.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 12:29:47
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 12:13=A0pm, "jdeluise" <jdelu...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > is going to end like.
>
> > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those y=
ou
> complain about....

More.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:28:17
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 24 Jan., 01:22, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net > wrote:
> Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
> > On Jan 23, 10:50 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 24, 12:24 am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
> >>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
> >>>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> >>>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> >>>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
> >>>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> >>>>> turn Hazey on.
> >>>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> >>>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> >>>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> >>>>> giving evidences of you being one.
> >>>> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> >>>> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> >>>> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> >>>> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> >>>> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> >>>> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> >>>> few years.
> >>>> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> >>>> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> >>>> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> >>>> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> >>>> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> >>>> ng.
> >>> And your biggest victim. No one is more obsessed with Whisper than
> >>> you.- Hide quoted text -
> >>> - Show quoted text -
> >> No. I am not obsessed with Whimpy. A more proper description would be
> >> that I am a very consistent advocate against Whimpy's trolling. I
> >> consider Whimpy to be the biggest troll of this ng. So naturally I try
> >> to point out that Whimpy is a troll and that people should not respond
> >> to him, as often as I can.
>
> >> For every 5th/10th/15th/n-th reply of someone who's caught in an
> >> endless loop in Whimpy's web of trolls, I try to inject the fact that
> >> Whimpy is a troll and that people shouldn't be replying to him in the
> >> first place. This ng will be hell of a lot better if there were no
> >> Whimpy (and none of the rest of the trolls of course). Since that's
> >> not possible, the next best solution is to not respond to him.
>
> > You respond to him more than anyone with all that educating that
> > you're doing.
>
> I think arnab is right in saying that he used to be worse.

I would say I used to be just plain good and naive, now I am better
and more experienced. :)


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:20:46
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 24, 12:59=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 23, 10:50=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 24, 12:24=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 23, 6:14=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>
> > > > > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then th=
ey will be
> > > > > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > > > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer mat=
ch.
>
> > > > > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying t=
o
> > > > > turn Hazey on.
> > > > > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his min=
d.
> > > > > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you o=
n
> > > > > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb=
than
> > > > > giving evidences of you being one.
>
> > > > Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> > > > here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybo=
dy.
> > > > Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him wa=
y
> > > > back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> > > > unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> > > > raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high fo=
r a
> > > > few years.
>
> > > > Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anythin=
g
> > > > else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of =
the
> > > > more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> > > > interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> > > > let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in th=
is
> > > > ng.
>
> > > And your biggest victim. No one is more obsessed with Whisper than
> > > you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > No. I am not obsessed with Whimpy. A more proper description would be
> > that I am a very consistent advocate against Whimpy's trolling. I
> > consider Whimpy to be the biggest troll of this ng. So naturally I try
> > to point out that Whimpy is a troll and that people should not respond
> > to him, as often as I can.
>
> > For every 5th/10th/15th/n-th reply of someone who's caught in an
> > endless loop in Whimpy's web of trolls, I try to inject the fact that
> > Whimpy is a troll and that people shouldn't be replying to him in the
> > first place. This ng will be hell of a lot better if there were no
> > Whimpy (and none of the rest of the trolls of course). Since that's
> > not possible, the next best solution is to not respond to him.
>
> You respond to him more than anyone with all that educating that
> you're doing.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Umm...no.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 10:59:02
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 10:50=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 24, 12:24=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 23, 6:14=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they=
will be
> > > > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match=
.
>
> > > > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > > > turn Hazey on.
> > > > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > > > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > > > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb t=
han
> > > > giving evidences of you being one.
>
> > > Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> > > here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody=
.
> > > Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> > > back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> > > unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> > > raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for =
a
> > > few years.
>
> > > Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> > > else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of th=
e
> > > more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> > > interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> > > let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> > > ng.
>
> > And your biggest victim. No one is more obsessed with Whisper than
> > you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> No. I am not obsessed with Whimpy. A more proper description would be
> that I am a very consistent advocate against Whimpy's trolling. I
> consider Whimpy to be the biggest troll of this ng. So naturally I try
> to point out that Whimpy is a troll and that people should not respond
> to him, as often as I can.
>
> For every 5th/10th/15th/n-th reply of someone who's caught in an
> endless loop in Whimpy's web of trolls, I try to inject the fact that
> Whimpy is a troll and that people shouldn't be replying to him in the
> first place. This ng will be hell of a lot better if there were no
> Whimpy (and none of the rest of the trolls of course). Since that's
> not possible, the next best solution is to not respond to him.

You respond to him more than anyone with all that educating that
you're doing.


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 19:22:35
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Sao Paulo Swallow wrote:
> On Jan 23, 10:50 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 12:24 am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>>>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>>>>> turn Hazey on.
>>>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>>>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>>>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>>>>> giving evidences of you being one.
>>>> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
>>>> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
>>>> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
>>>> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
>>>> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
>>>> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
>>>> few years.
>>>> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
>>>> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
>>>> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
>>>> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
>>>> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
>>>> ng.
>>> And your biggest victim. No one is more obsessed with Whisper than
>>> you.- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> No. I am not obsessed with Whimpy. A more proper description would be
>> that I am a very consistent advocate against Whimpy's trolling. I
>> consider Whimpy to be the biggest troll of this ng. So naturally I try
>> to point out that Whimpy is a troll and that people should not respond
>> to him, as often as I can.
>>
>> For every 5th/10th/15th/n-th reply of someone who's caught in an
>> endless loop in Whimpy's web of trolls, I try to inject the fact that
>> Whimpy is a troll and that people shouldn't be replying to him in the
>> first place. This ng will be hell of a lot better if there were no
>> Whimpy (and none of the rest of the trolls of course). Since that's
>> not possible, the next best solution is to not respond to him.
>
> You respond to him more than anyone with all that educating that
> you're doing.

I think arnab is right in saying that he used to be worse. But Whisper
is a pernicious pest and fairly adept at his art and a complete waste of
bandwidth and brain cells. :-)/:-(

--
Cheers,

vc


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 10:50:17
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 24, 12:24=A0am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 23, 6:14=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they w=
ill be
> > > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> > > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > > turn Hazey on.
> > > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb tha=
n
> > > giving evidences of you being one.
>
> > Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> > here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> > Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> > back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> > unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> > raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> > few years.
>
> > Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> > else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> > more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> > interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> > let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> > ng.
>
> And your biggest victim. No one is more obsessed with Whisper than
> you.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No. I am not obsessed with Whimpy. A more proper description would be
that I am a very consistent advocate against Whimpy's trolling. I
consider Whimpy to be the biggest troll of this ng. So naturally I try
to point out that Whimpy is a troll and that people should not respond
to him, as often as I can.

For every 5th/10th/15th/n-th reply of someone who's caught in an
endless loop in Whimpy's web of trolls, I try to inject the fact that
Whimpy is a troll and that people shouldn't be replying to him in the
first place. This ng will be hell of a lot better if there were no
Whimpy (and none of the rest of the trolls of course). Since that's
not possible, the next best solution is to not respond to him.


   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:10:18
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On Jan 24, 12:24 am, Sao Paulo Swallow <Sao_Paulo_Swal...@yahoo.com>
>> And your biggest victim. No one is more obsessed with Whisper than
>> you.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> No. I am not obsessed with Whimpy. A more proper description would be
> that I am a very consistent advocate against Whimpy's trolling. I
> consider Whimpy to be the biggest troll of this ng. So naturally I try
> to point out that Whimpy is a troll and that people should not respond
> to him, as often as I can.
>
> For every 5th/10th/15th/n-th reply of someone who's caught in an
> endless loop in Whimpy's web of trolls, I try to inject the fact that
> Whimpy is a troll and that people shouldn't be replying to him in the
> first place. This ng will be hell of a lot better if there were no
> Whimpy (and none of the rest of the trolls of course). Since that's
> not possible, the next best solution is to not respond to him.


You're a complete knob. If I were a troll then it wouldn't take much
for everyone to ignore me as I'd be talking Haze-level gibberish. I
speak the truth & you don't like it as it makes perfect sense.

Think about it - you claim you can't see that Wimbledon is most
prestigious - how dumb/trollish is that? Off the charts.





  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 10:38:45
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 Jan., 23:58, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net > wrote:
> arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> > On 23 Jan., 23:22, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >> arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> >>> On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
> >>>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >>>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
> >>>>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> >>>>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> >>>>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
> >>>>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> >>>>>> turn Hazey on.
> >>>>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> >>>>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> >>>>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> >>>>>> giving evidences of you being one.
> >>>>> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> >>>>> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> >>>>> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> >>>>> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> >>>>> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> >>>>> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> >>>>> few years.
> >>>>> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> >>>>> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> >>>>> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> >>>>> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> >>>>> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> >>>>> ng.
> >>>> Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
> >>>> is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
> >>>> intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
> >>>> idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.
> >>> I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
> >>> words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
> >>> 2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!
> >> I am pretty sure he does. But he appears to have taken a voluntary and
> >> self-aware stance of hope. Kudos to him for that.
>
> > I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> > seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> > then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> > finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> > Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> > good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> > is going to end like.
>
> > There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> > Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> If a troll's goal is to force people to rebut the nonsense, might you
> not be forced to think that the proverb applies to you in spades?
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> vc

Of course. But then I killfiled him. So I'd like to think I have made
major improvement and am that much smarter.


   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:05:54
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 23:58, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
>>> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
>>> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
>>> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
>>> is going to end like.
>>> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
>>> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>> If a troll's goal is to force people to rebut the nonsense, might you
>> not be forced to think that the proverb applies to you in spades?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> vc
>
> Of course. But then I killfiled him. So I'd like to think I have made
> major improvement and am that much smarter.


Then fucking stop talking about me.



  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 10:37:37
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 Jan., 23:36, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 23, 9:18 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > > > > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > > > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> > > > > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > > > > turn Hazey on.
> > > > > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > > > > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > > > > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> > > > > giving evidences of you being one.
>
> > > > Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> > > > here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> > > > Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> > > > back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> > > > unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> > > > raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> > > > few years.
>
> > > > Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> > > > else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> > > > more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> > > > interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> > > > let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> > > > ng.
>
> > > Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
> > > is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
> > > intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
> > > idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.
>
> > I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
> > words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
> > 2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!
>
> Then you'll have to group me in with him as a delusional, because I
> don't think Whisper's words are an exact transcription of his mind,
> either. :-)

Sure. Whatever floats your boat. The bottomline is Whimpy is a troll.
There's no point overanalyzing the obvious.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 10:24:06
From: Sao Paulo Swallow
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 6:14=A0am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they wil=
l be
> > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > turn Hazey on.
> > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> > giving evidences of you being one.
>
> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> few years.
>
> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> ng.

And your biggest victim. No one is more obsessed with Whisper than
you.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:42:20
From: GOAT
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 Jan, 17:31, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 23:22, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> > > On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >>> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> > >>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> very quiet ?
> > >>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > >>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
> > >>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> > >>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> > >>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
> > >>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > >>>> turn Hazey on.
> > >>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > >>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > >>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> > >>>> giving evidences of you being one.
> > >>> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> > >>> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> > >>> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> > >>> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> > >>> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> > >>> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> > >>> few years.
> > >>> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> > >>> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> > >>> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> > >>> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> > >>> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> > >>> ng.
> > >> Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
> > >> is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
> > >> intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
> > >> idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.
>
> > > I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
> > > words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
> > > 2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!
>
> > I am pretty sure he does. But he appears to have taken a voluntary and
> > self-aware stance of hope. Kudos to him for that.
>
> > --
> > Cheers,
>
> > vc
>
> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> is going to end like.
>
> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."

Wasn't that "fool me once...I....I won't be fooled again". Or was that
just Bush :D


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:36:06
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 9:18 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > > > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> > > > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > > > turn Hazey on.
> > > > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > > > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > > > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> > > > giving evidences of you being one.
>
> > > Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> > > here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> > > Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> > > back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> > > unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> > > raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> > > few years.
>
> > > Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> > > else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> > > more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> > > interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> > > let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> > > ng.
>
> > Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
> > is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
> > intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
> > idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.
>
> I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
> words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
> 2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!

Then you'll have to group me in with him as a delusional, because I
don't think Whisper's words are an exact transcription of his mind,
either. :-)


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 17:58:54
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
andrew.reys@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 23, 9:18 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>>>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>>>>> turn Hazey on.
>>>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>>>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>>>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>>>>> giving evidences of you being one.
>>>> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
>>>> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
>>>> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
>>>> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
>>>> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
>>>> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
>>>> few years.
>>>> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
>>>> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
>>>> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
>>>> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
>>>> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
>>>> ng.
>>> Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
>>> is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
>>> intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
>>> idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.
>> I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
>> words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
>> 2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!
>
> Then you'll have to group me in with him as a delusional, because I
> don't think Whisper's words are an exact transcription of his mind,
> either. :-)

Or even *a mind*, if you ask me! ;-)

--
Cheers,

vc


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:31:58
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 Jan., 23:22, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net > wrote:
> arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> > On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>>>>>>> very quiet ?
> >>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
> >>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
> >>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
> >>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
> >>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> >>>> turn Hazey on.
> >>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> >>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> >>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> >>>> giving evidences of you being one.
> >>> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> >>> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> >>> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> >>> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> >>> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> >>> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> >>> few years.
> >>> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> >>> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> >>> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> >>> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> >>> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> >>> ng.
> >> Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
> >> is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
> >> intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
> >> idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.
>
> > I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
> > words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
> > 2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!
>
> I am pretty sure he does. But he appears to have taken a voluntary and
> self-aware stance of hope. Kudos to him for that.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> vc

I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
is going to end like.

There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."


   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 22:58:18
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 23:22, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> I am pretty sure he does. But he appears to have taken a voluntary and
>> self-aware stance of hope. Kudos to him for that.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> vc
>
> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> is going to end like.
>
> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."


All I have to say to that is all fools think they're not fools. Are you
absolutely certain you're not a fool?

Examine your views on Wimbledon & prestige for eg.



   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 23:48:08
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:31:58 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
>
>There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
>Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."


have you heard the gw bush presidential version ? it's a blast !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 20:13:05
From: jdeluise
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

>
> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> is going to end like.
>
> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."

And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those you
complain about....


    
Date: 24 Jan 2009 23:27:32
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
jdeluise wrote:
> On 23-Jan-2009, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zaheen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
>> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
>> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
>> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
>> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
>> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
>> is going to end like.
>>
>> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
>> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."
>
> And after all the whining, you give him just as much attention as those you
> complain about....


Attention from a dork like arnab I wouldn't wish on anyone.



   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 17:58:15
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 23:22, "Vari L. Cinicke" <cini...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> arnab.z@gmail wrote:
>>> On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>>>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>>>>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>>>>>> turn Hazey on.
>>>>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>>>>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>>>>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>>>>>> giving evidences of you being one.
>>>>> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
>>>>> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
>>>>> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
>>>>> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
>>>>> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
>>>>> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
>>>>> few years.
>>>>> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
>>>>> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
>>>>> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
>>>>> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
>>>>> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
>>>>> ng.
>>>> Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
>>>> is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
>>>> intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
>>>> idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.
>>> I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
>>> words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
>>> 2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!
>> I am pretty sure he does. But he appears to have taken a voluntary and
>> self-aware stance of hope. Kudos to him for that.
>>
>
> I guess there are a variety of stances out there re: Whimpy and Manolo
> seems to have taken the one that requires interacting with the troll,
> then expressing surprise at the sheer level of his trollism, and
> finally making an "oh, well" sort of resigned comments, hoping that
> Whimpy will notice and change. Or may be not. Just running through the
> good old wash-rinse-repeat cycle with the troll, fully knowing how it
> is going to end like.
>
> There is a proverb that captures this stance perfectly: "Fool me once.
> Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me."

If a troll's goal is to force people to rebut the nonsense, might you
not be forced to think that the proverb applies to you in spades?

:-)

--
Cheers,

vc


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:18:22
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> > > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > > turn Hazey on.
> > > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> > > giving evidences of you being one.
>
> > Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> > here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> > Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> > back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> > unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> > raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> > few years.
>
> > Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> > else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> > more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> > interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> > let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> > ng.
>
> Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
> is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
> intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
> idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.

I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 17:22:42
From: Vari L. Cinicke
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 23:03, "andrew.r...@gmail.com" <andrew.r...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>>>> turn Hazey on.
>>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>>>> giving evidences of you being one.
>>> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
>>> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
>>> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
>>> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
>>> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
>>> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
>>> few years.
>>> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
>>> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
>>> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
>>> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
>>> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
>>> ng.
>> Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
>> is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
>> intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
>> idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.
>
> I don't think he does. He is making comments like "I can't believe his
> words are the exact transcriptions of his mind". It's like saying in
> 2008 "I cannot believe dubiya is such an idiot". Duh!

I am pretty sure he does. But he appears to have taken a voluntary and
self-aware stance of hope. Kudos to him for that.

--
Cheers,

vc


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:03:25
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 6:14 am, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > turn Hazey on.
> > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> > giving evidences of you being one.
>
> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> few years.
>
> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> ng.

Manolo has been here sporadically for a few years, I think - and if he
is in fact the entity I'm recalling, than he's shown better sense and
intelligence than 90% of the posters here. I think he's got a clear
idea of what Whisper - and Dave - are.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 07:12:41
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 jan, 15:58, PeteWasLucky <Waleed.Kh...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Jan 23, 8:13=A0am, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they wil=
l be
> > > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> > Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> > turn Hazey on.
> > I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> > I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> > purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> > giving evidences of you being one.
> > And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
> > He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
> > we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> > sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> > He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
> > reality (fed/safin=3Dboring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
> > Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> > Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
> > "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> > Share & Enjoy,
> > Manolo- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Ha ha, it seems you joined rst recently or it took you longer to
> figure out Whisper.
> Let me put it this way, when a guy watches a full match for many hours
> to end up editing the video to post a clip of a bad volley, there is
> nothing more to be said.
> People think he is a Sampras fan, but believe me he is not a Sampras'
> fan or a tennis fan either.

In fact I ugess I am older than you, as RSTer.
I refuse to put "forever stamp" on anybody, anything.
I wish not to loose that kind of hope, this is keeping me young :-)

Yet you had a good point, picturing the kind of poor life one has to
have to behave this way.
Whiskey needs a doc, that's a point we can agree.


Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 06:58:09
From: PeteWasLucky
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 8:13=A0am, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will =
be
> > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> turn Hazey on.
> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> giving evidences of you being one.
> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
> reality (fed/safin=3Dboring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> Share & Enjoy,
> Manolo- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ha ha, it seems you joined rst recently or it took you longer to
figure out Whisper.
Let me put it this way, when a guy watches a full match for many hours
to end up editing the video to post a clip of a bad volley, there is
nothing more to be said.
People think he is a Sampras fan, but believe me he is not a Sampras'
fan or a tennis fan either.





   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 22:37:59
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
PeteWasLucky wrote:
> On Jan 23, 8:13 am, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>> turn Hazey on.
>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>> giving evidences of you being one.
>> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
>> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
>> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
>> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
>> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
>> reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
>> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>>
>> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
>> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>>
>> Share & Enjoy,
>> Manolo- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Ha ha, it seems you joined rst recently or it took you longer to
> figure out Whisper.
> Let me put it this way, when a guy watches a full match for many hours
> to end up editing the video to post a clip of a bad volley, there is
> nothing more to be said.
> People think he is a Sampras fan, but believe me he is not a Sampras'
> fan or a tennis fan either.
>
>
>



I am a fan of real tennis & the truth.


    
Date: 24 Jan 2009 11:44:09
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:37:59 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>PeteWasLucky wrote:
>> On Jan 23, 8:13 am, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>>> turn Hazey on.
>>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>>> giving evidences of you being one.
>>> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
>>> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
>>> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
>>> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
>>> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
>>> reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
>>> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>>>
>>> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
>>> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>>>
>>> Share & Enjoy,
>>> Manolo- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Ha ha, it seems you joined rst recently or it took you longer to
>> figure out Whisper.
>> Let me put it this way, when a guy watches a full match for many hours
>> to end up editing the video to post a clip of a bad volley, there is
>> nothing more to be said.
>> People think he is a Sampras fan, but believe me he is not a Sampras'
>> fan or a tennis fan either.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>I am a fan of real tennis & the truth.


tennis maybe. the truth never.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 06:14:25
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> > Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> turn Hazey on.
> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> giving evidences of you being one.

Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
few years.

Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
ng.





   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 22:33:02
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
arnab.z@gmail wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 19:13, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>> turn Hazey on.
>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>> giving evidences of you being one.
>
> Are you new here? Whimpy is a troll. He has been ever since he got
> here. He's not just having fun with Haze. He does that with everybody.
> Whimpy's trolling behavior is a constant. Haze got burned by him way
> back, I think back in 2004, and then chose to react in the most
> unfortunate manner, by playing a mirror-troll of Whimpy and thereby
> raising the noise to signal ratio of this ng to all alltime high for a
> few years.
>
> Whimpy is a Sampras fanboy troll and if you think of him as anything
> else, you are guaranteed be surprised over and over again. Some of the
> more experienced users, regretfully in my opinion, have chosen to
> interact with him over and over again in an endless loop. But don't
> let that fool you. At core, Whimpy is a troll. That's his job in this
> ng.
>
>
>



I wouldn't waste my time trolling - simply dispensing gold tennis
analysis. Take it or leave it.




  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 05:41:29
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 jan, 14:18, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com > wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xami...@gmail.com"
>
>
>
> <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> >> > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> >> > > > very quiet ?
>
> >> > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >> > > > out in swarms ?
>
> >> > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> >> > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> >> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
> >Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
> >turn Hazey on.
> >I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
> >I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
> >purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
> >giving evidences of you being one.
> >And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
> >He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
> >we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
> >sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
> >He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
> >reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
> >Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
> >Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
> >"opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
> >Share & Enjoy,
> >Manolo
>
> excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to nab
> that lying fox from newcastle.

Don't root for me.
You don't know me.
You are not that different, maybe a younger & not yet sad version of
whiskey.
What is Rafa was to menace Federer slam record in few years, just like
Federer is now to Pete's?
You can then turn to be a Fed-version of whiskey.
Think about it, for it's nothing to be proud of.

I feel quite as bad seeing you endless & compulsive "ha ha ha" than
reading biased post from whiskey.
You tried to shoot at people in this post only because Federer did
looked good today.
Your silence is as much enjoyable as their, the worst thing for RST is
that tennis matches can never mute you (& giovanna, for ex.) at the
same moment the Federer's result mute them (the ones you targeted).

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > > very quiet ?
>
> > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > > > out in swarms ?
>
> > > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > Can't believe you're that biased...
>
> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.

Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
turn Hazey on.
I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
giving evidences of you being one.
And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)

Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
"opposite" side, he can't step back.

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 13:18:27
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xamigax@gmail.com"
<xamigax@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> > > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>
>> > > > very quiet ?
>>
>> > > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>> > > > out in swarms ?
>>
>> > > Pretty boring match so far.
>>
>> > Can't believe you're that biased...
>>
>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>
>Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>turn Hazey on.
>I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>giving evidences of you being one.
>And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
>He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
>we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
>sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
>He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
>reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
>Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>
>Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
>"opposite" side, he can't step back.
>
>Share & Enjoy,
>Manolo


excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to nab
that lying fox from newcastle.


    
Date: 24 Jan 2009 22:26:40
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:13:04 -0800 (PST), "xamigax@gmail.com"
> <xamigax@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 23 jan, 13:06, "arnab.z@gmail" <arnab.zah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>> Pretty boring match so far.
>>>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>>> Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.
>> Because I was hoping that whiskey was mostly having fun, trying to
>> turn Hazey on.
>> I can't believe his words are the exact transcriptions of his mind.
>> I used to like less the ones who are not trying to irritate you on
>> purpose, but because of low understanding... You better play dumb than
>> giving evidences of you being one.
>> And whiskey's posts are falling in the wrong side of that balance.
>> He has to give signs of not being an asshole, not just more often:
>> we're still waiting for him to show something clever, instead of
>> sticking to his idiotic themes (clown era, 7543).
>> He's hardly ever do anything appart from denying or discribing a false
>> reality (fed/safin=boring match & rooting for very poor tennis as
>> Ivanovic/Klaybonova in the same breath...)
>>
>> Whiskey needs help, from doctors I mean... He went too far on the
>> "opposite" side, he can't step back.
>>
>> Share & Enjoy,
>> Manolo
>
>
> excellent post. you have the scent and are on the right trail to nab
> that lying fox from newcastle.


He's just some dumb French guy. I already said Federer played extremely
well & can only lose to Rafa in this tournament.



  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 04:54:47
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 jan, 12:54, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> xami...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> >>> very quiet ?
> >>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >>> out in swarms ?
> >> Pretty boring match so far.
>
> > Can't believe you're that biased...
> > Or just trying to turn on Hazel, who never needed you anyway to buzz
> > around whenever Fed is ahead.
> > Some excellent tennis out there, clean play, both players focused...
> > Way better than most of what I've seen so far for this AO09.
> > Check out Ivanovic's match to see what I mean, can't believe how bad
> > the play is, for a former #1. Okay it's hot, but for fuck sake, the
> > speed of their balls is almost in my league!
>
> > Share & Enjoy,
> > Manolo
>
> It's always 30% faster than it looks on tv.

Okay, you made a clear entrance into the "most stupid words of the
month".
Congratulations.
Why are you trying so hard to look like a (tier-1) imbecile?

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 17:09:21
From: Sakari Lund
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:54:47 -0800 (PST), "xamigax@gmail.com"
<xamigax@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 23 jan, 12:54, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> xami...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>
>> >>> very quiet ?
>> >>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>> >>> out in swarms ?
>> >> Pretty boring match so far.
>>
>> > Can't believe you're that biased...
>> > Or just trying to turn on Hazel, who never needed you anyway to buzz
>> > around whenever Fed is ahead.
>> > Some excellent tennis out there, clean play, both players focused...
>> > Way better than most of what I've seen so far for this AO09.
>> > Check out Ivanovic's match to see what I mean, can't believe how bad
>> > the play is, for a former #1. Okay it's hot, but for fuck sake, the
>> > speed of their balls is almost in my league!
>>
>> > Share & Enjoy,
>> > Manolo
>>
>> It's always 30% faster than it looks on tv.
>
>Okay, you made a clear entrance into the "most stupid words of the
>month".
>Congratulations.
>Why are you trying so hard to look like a (tier-1) imbecile?

What was stupid in that?


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 04:06:27
From: arnab.z@gmail
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > > very quiet ?
>
> > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > > out in swarms ?
>
> > Pretty boring match so far.
>
> Can't believe you're that biased...

Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 12:13:33
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 04:06:27 -0800 (PST), "arnab.z@gmail"
<arnab.zaheen@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 23 Jan., 17:34, "xami...@gmail.com" <xami...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> > Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>
>> > > very quiet ?
>>
>> > > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>> > > out in swarms ?
>>
>> > Pretty boring match so far.
>>
>> Can't believe you're that biased...
>
>Why is this surprising? It's Whimpy commenting on a Federer match.


oh yeah i forgot. he's a Fed "fan". ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 03:34:55
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>
> > very quiet ?
>
> > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > out in swarms ?
>
> Pretty boring match so far.

Can't believe you're that biased...
Or just trying to turn on Hazel, who never needed you anyway to buzz
around whenever Fed is ahead.
Some excellent tennis out there, clean play, both players focused...
Way better than most of what I've seen so far for this AO09.
Check out Ivanovic's match to see what I mean, can't believe how bad
the play is, for a former #1. Okay it's hot, but for fuck sake, the
speed of their balls is almost in my league!


Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 22:54:04
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
xamigax@gmail.com wrote:
> On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>
>>> very quiet ?
>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>> out in swarms ?
>> Pretty boring match so far.
>
> Can't believe you're that biased...
> Or just trying to turn on Hazel, who never needed you anyway to buzz
> around whenever Fed is ahead.
> Some excellent tennis out there, clean play, both players focused...
> Way better than most of what I've seen so far for this AO09.
> Check out Ivanovic's match to see what I mean, can't believe how bad
> the play is, for a former #1. Okay it's hot, but for fuck sake, the
> speed of their balls is almost in my league!
>
>
> Share & Enjoy,
> Manolo


It's always 30% faster than it looks on tv.



   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:40:18
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:34:55 -0800 (PST), "xamigax@gmail.com"
<xamigax@gmail.com > wrote:

>On 23 jan, 12:16, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>
>> > very quiet ?
>>
>> > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>> > out in swarms ?
>>
>> Pretty boring match so far.
>
>Can't believe you're that biased...
>Or just trying to turn on Hazel, who never needed you anyway to buzz
>around whenever Fed is ahead.
>Some excellent tennis out there, clean play, both players focused...
>Way better than most of what I've seen so far for this AO09.
>Check out Ivanovic's match to see what I mean, can't believe how bad
>the play is, for a former #1. Okay it's hot, but for fuck sake, the
>speed of their balls is almost in my league!
>
>
>Share & Enjoy,
>Manolo


yes he *is* more than that biased.

if sampras was ahead in this match he would be touting it as a nuclear
display of sampras power !


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:30:38
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:16:43 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>
>> very quiet ?
>>
>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>> out in swarms ?
>
>
>Pretty boring match so far.


Pretty much like any old Sampras match so far eh ?

ace fault ace ace fault ace fault fault no ?


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36
From: Dr. GroundAxe
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote in message
news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>
>
> very quiet ?
>
> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> out in swarms ?


Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.



  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:19:29
From:
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 8:15=A0am, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
> > "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>
> >> very quiet ?
>
> >> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >> out in swarms ?
>
> > Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>
> He might not do it before the final.
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"

fed will not face a credible opponent until the final. the corrupted
ITF made sure that old fed got an easy draw until the final now that
he is old and slow and past his best.


   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 17:53:11
From: john
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

<Arancione@selin.com > wrote in message
news:ecacc3f2-ad16-4eec-90d3-295b11857efb@u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 23, 8:15 am, TT <g...@Olympics.org > wrote:
> Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
> > "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>
> >> very quiet ?
>
> >> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >> out in swarms ?
>
> > Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>
> He might not do it before the final.
>
> --
> "Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
> singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"

fed will not face a credible opponent until the final. the corrupted
ITF made sure that old fed got an easy draw until the final now that
he is old and slow and past his best.

Ok, he is old and slow and past his best so what is that saying about
Djokovic
that got beaten by Federer or Nadal at his peak who took five set to beat
Federer,
the same old and slow and past his best Federer also beat Murray in USO.
Are
we entering a new clown era when and old and slow and past his best former
No.1 was able to beat two of the best players in the world ?




  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:16:13
From:
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 6:27=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>
> <ground...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>
> >> very quiet ?
>
> >> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >> out in swarms ?
>
> >Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>
> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
> prove so he is especially so.
>
> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.


Safin is a washed up has been that said he will retire this year.

Fed not been tested yet. Nothing but mugs in his draw.


   
Date: 24 Jan 2009 11:44:56
From: john
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

<Arancione@selin.com > wrote in message
news:be993023-6365-44ba-9ef0-cc6278c11720@b1g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 23, 6:27 am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>
> <ground...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>
> >> very quiet ?
>
> >> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >> out in swarms ?
>
> >Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>
> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
> prove so he is especially so.
>
> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.


Safin is a washed up has been that said he will retire this year.

Fed not been tested yet. Nothing but mugs in his draw.


You'd better tell Djokovic that Safin is a washed up and was not a test for
him
in last year's thrashing at Wimbledon. Djokovic will feel very proud when
you
tell him he was beaten by a mug rather than a former No.1 and grand slam
champion in a grand slam....




  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:01:40
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 4:17 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:52:57 +1100, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:29:42 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> >>> <ground...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
> >>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> >>>>> <ground...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>> very quiet ?
>
> >>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >>>>>>> out in swarms ?
> >>>>>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
> >>>>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
> >>>>> prove so he is especially so.
>
> >>>>> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.
>
> >>>> Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tried to
> >>>> talk Seppi up too.
>
> >>> Both Seppi and Safin are eons better opponents than those what were
> >>> their name again types Rafa and murray played.
>
> >>> Yes even a washed up Safin with something to prove against Fed.
>
> >> er, Rafa has Haas tomorrow & then winner of Gonzalez/Gasquet - draw from
> >> hell.
>
> >> Roger has a soft draw.
>
> > er.... not up to this point. Fed has had a far harder draw so far and
> > I would not consider Haas much more difficult than Seppi
>
> Haas pushed Fed to 5 sets last time at AO you fucking idiot.

Wasn't that like 3 or 4 years ago?


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 09:00:47
From: andrew.reys@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 3:48 am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> > <ground...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >>news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>
> >>> very quiet ?
>
> >>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >>> out in swarms ?
>
> >> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>
> > Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
> > prove so he is especially so.
>
> Bullshit. Safin has hinted he's retiring this yr.

Forget hinted - I think he's confirmed that he's gone at the end of
the year. That said - I would expect him to want to make his last year
on tour a good one, no?


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 07:51:04
From: Steve Jaros
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 5:52=A0am, Whisper <beaver...@ozemail.com.au > wrote:
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:29:42 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> > <ground...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >>news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
> >>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> >>> <ground...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>
> >>>>> very quiet ?
>
> >>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> >>>>> out in swarms ?
>
> >>>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>
> >>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
> >>> prove so he is especially so.
>
> >>> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types=
.
>
> >> Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tri=
ed to
> >> talk Seppi up too.
>
> > Both Seppi and Safin are eons better opponents than those what were
> > their name again types Rafa and murray played.
>
> > Yes even a washed up Safin with something to prove against Fed.
>
> er, Rafa has Haas tomorrow & then winner of Gonzalez/Gasquet - draw from
> hell.
>
> Roger has a soft draw.

.. but so far nadal has played 2 basket-cases.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 15:15:11
From: TT
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Dr. GroundAxe wrote:
> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> very quiet ?
>>
>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>> out in swarms ?
>
>
> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.

He might not do it before the final.

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Date: 23 Jan 2009 03:28:29
From: xamigax@gmail.com
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On 23 jan, 12:19, "Dr. GroundAxe" <ground...@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:
> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>
> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > very quiet ?
>
> > i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> > out in swarms ?
>
> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.

You mean, the ones Murray & Nadal had to face yesterday?
Excellent point you made then.

Share & Enjoy,
Manolo


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:27:43
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
<groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:

>"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> very quiet ?
>>
>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>> out in swarms ?
>
>
>Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.


Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
prove so he is especially so.

Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 22:48:43
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> very quiet ?
>>>
>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>> out in swarms ?
>>
>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>
>
> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
> prove so he is especially so.
>


Bullshit. Safin has hinted he's retiring this yr.


    
Date: 23 Jan 2009 23:05:54
From: john
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au > wrote in message
news:4979aea1$0$9541$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>
>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>
>>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>>
>>
>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
>> prove so he is especially so.
>>
>
>
> Bullshit. Safin has hinted he's retiring this yr.

Did you tell that to Djokovic at last year's Wimbledon ?




     
Date: 23 Jan 2009 12:18:37
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:05:54 +1100, "john" <jliang@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>
>"Whisper" <beaver999@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>news:4979aea1$0$9541$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>
>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>
>>>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>>>
>>>
>>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
>>> prove so he is especially so.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Bullshit. Safin has hinted he's retiring this yr.
>
>Did you tell that to Djokovic at last year's Wimbledon ?
>


Safin is *not* retiring. His *hint* is wrong.


   
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:29:42
From: Dr. GroundAxe
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote in message
news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> very quiet ?
>>>
>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>> out in swarms ?
>>
>>
>>Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>
>
> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
> prove so he is especially so.
>
> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.



Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tried to
talk Seppi up too.



    
Date: 23 Jan 2009 23:04:51
From: john
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?

"Dr. GroundAxe" <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk > wrote in message
news:GShel.24449$Sp5.13165@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>
>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>>
>>
>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
>> prove so he is especially so.
>>
>> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.
>
>
>
> Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tried
> to talk Seppi up too.

Safin is dangerous player and probably one of the most dangerous lower
seeded player in
AO and he has the experience and the game to win big matches. Sure he is
washed up and a
has been for few years but he can turn in some very good performance against
even the top
players like his thrashing of Djokovic at last year's Wimbledon. Safin
certainly appear to
be gear up for a big match against Federer and so far Federer is doing a
great job.




    
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:34:24
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:29:42 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
<groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk > wrote:

>"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>"Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>
>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>>
>>
>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
>> prove so he is especially so.
>>
>> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.
>
>
>
>Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tried to
>talk Seppi up too.


Both Seppi and Safin are eons better opponents than those what were
their name again types Rafa and murray played.

Yes even a washed up Safin with something to prove against Fed.


     
Date: 23 Jan 2009 22:52:57
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:29:42 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>
>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>
>>>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>>>
>>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
>>> prove so he is especially so.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.
>>
>>
>> Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tried to
>> talk Seppi up too.
>
>
> Both Seppi and Safin are eons better opponents than those what were
> their name again types Rafa and murray played.
>
> Yes even a washed up Safin with something to prove against Fed.



er, Rafa has Haas tomorrow & then winner of Gonzalez/Gasquet - draw from
hell.

Roger has a soft draw.



      
Date: 23 Jan 2009 12:05:24
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:52:57 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:29:42 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>>>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>>>>
>>>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
>>>> prove so he is especially so.
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.
>>>
>>>
>>> Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tried to
>>> talk Seppi up too.
>>
>>
>> Both Seppi and Safin are eons better opponents than those what were
>> their name again types Rafa and murray played.
>>
>> Yes even a washed up Safin with something to prove against Fed.
>
>
>
>er, Rafa has Haas tomorrow & then winner of Gonzalez/Gasquet - draw from
>hell.
>
>Roger has a soft draw.

er.... not up to this point. Fed has had a far harder draw so far and
I would not consider Haas much more difficult than Seppi nor
Gonzalez/Gasquet more difficult than Safin when adjusted for the fact
that he is playing them each 2 rounds later.

It is Rafa who has the softcock draw for sure as he always does.


       
Date: 23 Jan 2009 23:17:05
From: Whisper
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:52:57 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:29:42 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>>>>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>>>>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
>>>>> prove so he is especially so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.
>>>>
>>>> Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tried to
>>>> talk Seppi up too.
>>>
>>> Both Seppi and Safin are eons better opponents than those what were
>>> their name again types Rafa and murray played.
>>>
>>> Yes even a washed up Safin with something to prove against Fed.
>>
>>
>> er, Rafa has Haas tomorrow & then winner of Gonzalez/Gasquet - draw from
>> hell.
>>
>> Roger has a soft draw.
>
> er.... not up to this point. Fed has had a far harder draw so far and
> I would not consider Haas much more difficult than Seppi


Haas pushed Fed to 5 sets last time at AO you fucking idiot.


        
Date: 23 Jan 2009 12:28:16
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 23:17:05 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au >
wrote:

>Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:52:57 +1100, Whisper <beaver999@ozemail.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dave Hazelwood wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:29:42 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>>>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gaajn4hujrckbu3dkctp62qnjrh5k773f2@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:19:36 GMT, "Dr. GroundAxe"
>>>>>> <groundaxe@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Dave Hazelwood" <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:af9jn4d9uknrn3nqvv8rpkegoj6npgrm3q@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> very quiet ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>>>>>>>> out in swarms ?
>>>>>>> Get back to us when Federer faces a credible opponent.
>>>>>> Safin is ALWAYS dangerous and against Federer he has something to
>>>>>> prove so he is especially so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile Rafa and Murray get to play what was their name again types.
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh. Safin is washed up and has been for a few years. I recall you tried to
>>>>> talk Seppi up too.
>>>>
>>>> Both Seppi and Safin are eons better opponents than those what were
>>>> their name again types Rafa and murray played.
>>>>
>>>> Yes even a washed up Safin with something to prove against Fed.
>>>
>>>
>>> er, Rafa has Haas tomorrow & then winner of Gonzalez/Gasquet - draw from
>>> hell.
>>>
>>> Roger has a soft draw.
>>
>> er.... not up to this point. Fed has had a far harder draw so far and
>> I would not consider Haas much more difficult than Seppi
>
>
>Haas pushed Fed to 5 sets last time at AO you fucking idiot.


so ? galo blanco beat sampras at the fo ? george bastl beat sampras at
wimbledon and jeremy yzaga beat pete at the uso.

see the comparison ?


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 03:19:09
From: wkhedr
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt,
On Jan 23, 6:13=A0am, Dave Hazelwood <the_big_kah...@mailcity.com >
wrote:
> very quiet ?
>
> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
> out in swarms ?

you mean Federer's fans?


 
Date: 23 Jan 2009 11:16:30
From: Dave Hazelwood
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell, etc ?
On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:13:35 GMT, Dave Hazelwood
<the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com > wrote:

>
>
>very quiet ?
>
>i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>out in swarms ?


will the worms turn if he wins ?

that is the question.


  
Date: 23 Jan 2009 15:13:55
From: TT
Subject: Re: where are all the rst worms like whisper, groundaxe, tjt, hardcell,
Dave Hazelwood wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:13:35 GMT, Dave Hazelwood
> <the_big_kahuna@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> very quiet ?
>>
>> i guess until Fed were to be broken or lose a set then they will be
>> out in swarms ?
>
>
> will the worms turn if he wins ?
>
> that is the question.

You're the only worm here.

My analysis on the match: Safin is generally most overrated
player...inconsistent and lacks weapons. His groundstrokes are quite
soft actually. Good serve occasionally.

Boring match, went according to skript...Safin going for too much and
executing poorly, Federer being confident with his favourite pigeon and
played well. Good for Roger's confidence.

Haven't these players learned anything from Tipsarevic...you do not have
to go for too much against Federer, just play your own game. Oh
well...apparently Safin did...

Federer has an fucking easy draw.

--
"Now I have so many dreams to chase - the French Open, an Olympic
singles gold medal in London in 2012, the Davis Cup for Switzerland"